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hey, what are your guys's takes on Assisted suicide?
for those of you who dont know, Assisted suicide is the Act of a Physician "Helping" a victim of any Disease that makes them want to end their life. me, personally, thinks its a bad thing, but when they ask you to pull the plug, i might be compelled to do it. what about you guys?

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I think if there's a very small chance of the patient surviving, and the patient wants them to let them die, they should. It's their life, and if there's such a small chance of them surviving, the doctors should spend time working on other patients. I had a neighbor who died about 5 days ago, she told them to give up, and she just went home. Not really assisted suicide, but they agreed to lt her go.

okay, so are you saying that if they want to live, but only have a small chance of survival, the doctors should stop helping a person who still has Human Rights, and help the person with a broken bone more than the person whos near death? still dont get ir.

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While I don't think a person should be kept alive if they don't want to, I don't think that doctors should help them die. It's against the Hypocratic Oath, and it sets a slippery slide that really scares me..
With that said, I know that I wouldn't want to suffer miserably for the last months of my life, so I can see both sides. I think people have a right to die if they want to, but I don't think doctors should be the ones performing the act.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

That's not what he said at all. He said the doctor should stop helping them if the patient wants it.

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Could you imagine what it would be like if Dr. Kevorkian had a waiting room. "The Doctor will kill you now."

But in all seriousness, I don't agree with physician assisted suicide. Let God decide when it is time.

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Ya, Because you cant really say "died of natural causes" if the cause was someone pulled the plug. If the person wants to die let them, but otherwise Let god deciede.

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If we let God decide when it was time, we wouldn't have situations like the Terri Schiavo case, in which a woman was kept alive for longer than she should have been. But toastpaint.

I don't necessarily think doctors should be able to kill you, per se, but if you want to die they should be permitted to prescribe lethal doses of medication. It's the patient's final decision, not the doctor. The doctor is merely a means to an end.

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To me, "pulling the plug" is different from injecting toxins into your bloodstream or inhaling carbon monxoide...
Pulling the plug is when you let someone die by not sustaining them (by feeding them with a feeding tube, or keeping them on a respirator). "Assisted suicide" is when you do something that will cause their death. Not when you simply stop them from being sustained.

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well, imagin that after the guy takes that lethal dose of Poision, someone breaks into the house, steals the poision, and well...err..... do that thing that that guy did to Tylenol in the 80's.

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How would that be the doctor's fault?

That's like blaming Home Depot if you buy a sledgehammer there, but someone steals it and uses it to bludgeon people to death.

Besides, if you wanted to kill yourself, wouldn't you take the whole dose of what was prescribed?

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So you're saying that if someone want's shoot themself in the head, that it's ok, cause it's their right?
Initially, I think having the right to die might be alright. But then if that were the case, then it wouldn't be illegal to try to stop someone from committing suicide? [sarcasm]I mean, it's their life, they can do what they want with it, right?[/sarcasm]
But then on the other hand, if it weren't the case, and someone was lying in a bed as a vegetable for 30 years, wouldn't it be sensible for the family to end that person's life, since they basically have no life anyway?

I don't know where exactly I stand on the issue. It doesn't seem like the right to die is right, but then again, it does. Am I even making sense?

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Wait, what? No, life support keeps them from the death that, while not of natural causes, is caused by something that the doctor had nothing to do with. Pulling the plug is not the doctor killing them, per se, it's allowing them to die. However, 'the cause was someone pulled the plug', as you put it, is never valid-the cause is never pulling the plug.

And what's this? Let God decide? Ha! You're defending the use of life support, but then saying to let God decide? (note that I'm not against life support, merely saying your argument is stupid, not wrong, but stupid) Hypocrisy at its best, I'd say.

if by "Whole Dose", you mean Drink the whole bottle of poision, then that wouldnt work. if you take way more than enough poision to kill yourself, like 10X the ammount prescribed, that your body is gonna Reject the poision, and you throw it back up. Same thing with epikak, too much of it, your puke your pants, err.... mouth..

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I don't think the doctor would prescribe more than was needed to be a fatal dose, anyway. He'd prescribe just enough to be lethal.

Also, I don't think doctors can write out prescriptions for cyanide or whatever you're thinking. I'd guess they'd prescribe heavy-duty painkillers or sleeping pills.

But toastpaint. We're talking about the ethical and moral dispute here.

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Yep, Exa is right. I don't think they should kill them, but thy should just let them die. The only exception to this rule is if they're suffering and it will take a long time to die, then I think it's right to kill them with poison or something (If they say to, obviously)

yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I do believe that, in some cases, it's very selfish of the person committing suicide to do so, but it should be their right.

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I agree. Why shouldn't they be able to? It stops ntheir suffering, mental or phyisical, and if that's what they wnat to do, I have nothing against it.

It's not that I don't have problems with people killing themselves. People who are physically healthy that kill themselves often put their friends and family through an emotional hell.
My having problems with something doesn't mean that it shouldn't happen, though.
I just hope that the people contemplating suicide think about those they're leaving behind.
To me, this doesn't apply as much to people with terminal diseases, as most of the time, their families have accepted the fate their loved ones face.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

Ugh... What I'm trying to say is let the person make their own decision. I support life support UNLESS the person doesn't want to be kept alive.

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I mostly agree with SR. But when you are talking with doctor related suicides, it is much different than dealing with coma or other issues in which the victim has no consiousness. If someone is being supported and they are miserable, and they choose to go home and let the sickness or whatever take them, this is much different than a doctor assisted suicide. Suicide is wrong, selfish and should not be condoned or allowed, if possible.

A Perfect Circle has a song titled "The Outsider" that is about suicide and the song puts really into perspective what a waste it is.

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I guess it's time to chip in my four haypennies.

I can't really say what's "right" or "wrong" in this issue, as morallity's specific to each person. However, I think that people confuse "pulling the plug" with "assisted suicide." There's usually a difference...

In my own personal opinion, if I were in a vegetative state, I'd wanna die. Errr.... I would have wanted to die back when I had the ability to make that decision.

And therein lies the paradox. If someones vegetative, they can't make a decision to die.

I believe that doctors should be able to write a perscription for a deadly overdose of a drug only when the case is reviewed by a medical review board.The patient should also be checked out by the aformentioned review board and only if they are declared terminal be that 3rd party doctor should the process go on. People have a right to die, yo.

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An old friend of mine did a website on euthanasia and assisted suicide for her Masters project. She got some really good interviews, including one with a doctor in Switzerland who specialises in it. Worth a look.

Swiss suicide tourism, does anyone else find that a bit funny in a morbid way?

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