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Yeah, that's a cool thing to day. All those Christians who say homosexuals are going to go to hell aren't thinking. God made them, and He doesn't make mistakes. If He didn't want them to be just the way they are, then He would have made them differently. If He had wanted them to die, then He wouldn't have sent His son to die for us. Thanks, it's been awhile since I've last talked to someone who has the same thoughts about this matter as I do.

Wow.. in 2001 The Onion published an article called "Bush: 'Our Long Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity is Finally Over". It's The Onion, so it's fake news, right? Nope, this time it was prophecy. Almost everything in the article has actually come true.

Amazing how Bush has surpassed even the worst cynics' expectations.

And: Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

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Bush supports our troops, right? Yeah, duh, no.

GIs are being threatened with an ultimatum: Either re-enlist for three years, or get sent to Iraq.

Gotta love that Compassionate Conservatism.

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The article shows no evidence that the administration is any way involed with this occurence. Sounds to me like recruiters trying to meet quotas(or how ever they are payed), by scaring the soilders into re-enlisting. I also don't see how its realated to conservatism...

1. Bill Clinton left Dubbya a defense plan for this kinda thing. Did he take it?

2. Liberals only were angered when Bush attacked Iraq, a country that has total irrelavance to the war on terror. True, Saddam hated America, but even IF he had WMD's, he knew that Iraq would be turned into a giant hole if he used them on anything.

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Um.. what part of Commander in Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces don't you understand?

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Um...The Commander in Chief doesn't make all the decisions in the Military.

But he chooses where to send the troops, and in what numbers, and has the final word in any action. If this really were just the work of "rogue recruiters" (though it's clearly an upper-level policy shift), then Bush should have publicly condemned it immediately.

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As a former military man myself, this would have made me very angry.

However, I seriously doubt that Bush had any hand in this policy at all. It's the kind of thing the military units do to try to serve their own interests at the expense of the troops. Believe me, I know; things like this have happened to me. But this kind of broad interpretation of the military's needs is more like something a command or a unit would do, not the president.

Considering that these men and women have already fulfilled their obligations (and then some), I hope that higher authorities will correct this issue and allow these men to finish their requirements with no such hastles.

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Hey-how come Kerry only served 4 months in Vietnam?

Hey come Bush NEVER served? How long was he in the national guard again?

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Hey, what the crap does it matter anyway?

That was YEARS ago, and I'm not the same person I was even 1 year ago.

I think this "military service" crap is just quibbling nonsense.

You know those orders that Bush allegedly failed to obey? Well I looked at them on line, and they are obvious fakes.

The font used is Times New Roman, and the characters are in fairly equal proximity, meaning that the type was shifted to allow for different character widths. This is characteristic of a word processor, not a typewriter.

Any orders issued circa 1973 would have been done on a typewriter, not a word processor. Word processors were not readily available at that time, and even those that were tended to function like typewriters.

Someone obviously forged this document using a modern word processor, then used some sort of paint program to make the document look like it was very old and had been photocopied a hundred times. Too bad the font gives the hoax away.

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You're more than a little late to the party on this one, Didymus. Bloggers caught onto this a couple hours after the CBS broadcast, and the media was on it the next day (and, predictably, are still on it). Pretty much the only folks who still don't think they're fake is CBS, and they're just covering Dan Rather's arse.

Of course, nobody has been able to figure out where Bush actually was during six months of his duty, except that it clearly wasn't anywhere near the military base he was supposed to be at.

Personal memos or not (and it's a definite not), Bush never fulfilled his commitment to the national guard unit into which strings were pulled to get him.

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No no no, it's not like that-I just want to find out for my mom why Kerry only served 4 months. Kerry '04, or something.


Still like Badnarik better....

I figure the memos are fakes, but the content is accurate. Kinda like those memos that showed that Iraq, Libya, North Korea, etc... were engaged in buying yellow cake for nuclear weapons from Niger. The memos ended up being fake, and Bush and the British were lambasted for bad intelligence, but a month or two later they were found to be forged copies of accurate intelligence.

Here's an article on the yellow cake scandal. I find it easy to believe that these CBS memos could be similar in nature.

I'm not sure you can make that assessment, RacerX. Fake stuff tends to be fake for a reason: people want other people to BELIEVE it's real. If there were a hearing to try to determine Bush's service, this would not be admissable as evidence. In fact, introducing it at all would only hurt those who are trying to prove that Bush was AWOL.

It doesn't seem to matter, anyway. With the polls the way they are, unless something radical happens to shift public opinion, Bush is going to have this one wrapped up and waiting under his tree.

As it stands, I don't think I will vote for a presidential candidate at all. Bush has disappointed me these past two years (mostly because of Iraq), and Kerry has failed to win my confidence. I'm not going to make the same mistake I did in 1992, when I voted for Clinton just because I didn't like George Sr.

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This isn't the case at all. Bush's margin, if it exists, is tiny tiny tiny, and you can bet that he's sweating (though slightly less than he was in August). Most swing states are still swinging as much as ever. There's hope yet.

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I just can't understand this administration.

No, that's a lie. I understand them completely. Greed and pride are very easy-to-understand emotions. Who I don't understand are the American people. They have been lied to, they have had their loved ones stolen from them, they have been cheated out of their vote. But more than half of them still think that Bush is doing his job, and maybe even doing it well.

Of course, he's not.

1,032 men and women in uniform have lost their lives for the war Bush started for reasons we've yet to discover. Three times as many have been wounded, more than half of which will never return to battle. And for every one of those soldiers who have died, 14 civilians have paid the price. And so have we. In dollars, the Iraq invasion has cost us $136,000,000,000 and counting. That's enough cash to give every child in the world basic immunizations for the next 45 years. Or put 18 million pre-school children in the Head Start program. Or pay more than two million public school teachers for a year.

But that's not where our priorities lie. (Lie is right.)

Instead we've started and are perpetuating a war that we will not win. The country's chief military strategists don't believe that Bush can bring us through this one. What we're doing, they say, is "achieving Bin Laden's ends." Even Bush's buddies in the intelligence community don't see any silver lining. They say the best-case scenario is tenuous stability. And just as likely, they say, is all-out civil war in Iraq. Congress set aside money for Bush to use in reconstructing Iraq, like he said he would. What did he do with it? He sat on it. Only 6% of it has been spent since last year.

Bush is a poor leader. Bush is weak on defense. Bush is brash and foolhardy commander in chief. Bush is good at lying to the people. Bush is good at hiding 1,032 caskets. Bush is good at serving corporate interests. Bush is good at fixing elections. I'd rather have a president who isn't good at anything than a president is only good at some things in the way Bush is.

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Oh, and on November 9, 2001, the CIA, FBI, and the Defense Intelligence Agency "were told to back off the Saudis." Bloody cute, that.

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Ha! IJ double posted!

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The S is for... uh...
Shameless self-promotion

And you spammed. Keep it on-topic.

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The current estimates are scaring me, mainly the little Electoral Vote Predictor. It's showing a large growth on Bush's side. Why the sudden leap? I remember that around 2-3 weeks ago, Kerry was largely ahead.

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Evidence of the ol' glassies! Nothing up our sleeves, no magic little Alex! A job for two who are now of job age! The police!

My guess would either be the Republican National Convention or possibly even the CBS documents. Either way, it isn't good. I love how he says things he will do if he was elected, not realizing that he could have done all of those things if he hadn't engaged in a war on Iraq.

[Edit: I just read that John Kerry said he would not have ousted Saddam. This might put the election in the bag for Bush.]

There was an initial boost for Bush just after the RNC, but then Kerry pulled ahead briefly again. Since then, something has caused Bush's rating to jump back up, and it seems to be holding steady for now.

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Came across a very interesting essay today:

The Rise of Pseudo Fascism Part 1: The Morphing of the Conservative Movement

I usually avoid long editorials from bloggers, for obvious reasons, but this one is rather compelling and seems well-thought-out. I can't say as I agree with everything it says, but it's worth reading no matter where you stand. It says "beginning of a six-part series", and if the rest are as interesting I'll post them as they come (if I remember, that is).

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WORD.

I'm more interested in the issues that concern us NOW...even this Iraq thing is getting old.

BTW...I think I heard a rumor that there's a possibility of an amendment being made to the consitution so that foreigners could become president! (President Schwarzeneger [sp?], anyone?)....

*thinking*...Perhaps this is my ticket to fame!! My dual-citizenship will finally prove it's power!
*Ahem* My fellow half-Americans! Vote StrongCanada in 2008! I'm still looking for running mates....our platform is...umm....party all the time! Yay!!!

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You still have to wait til you're 35, dear.

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