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Read more up there. He was being sarcastic.

Eh...I really don't have much to say about this topic. It seems to me like it would be racist, but I have a hard time putting into words what I want to say.

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Uh, that's kind of the point. Trolling very often is sarcastic.

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Umm...Not really. But, whatever.

Does anyone know if whatever Govener tried to do anything about it?

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uhh... no its not, and lahimatoa doesnt troll, but if you continuoulsy follow this guy around the forum trying to find where he's posting, and pointing it out is trolling.

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...except he was making a clear and valid statement; black people are often portrayed as never being racist by the media. Doesn't seem like trolling to me.

He can pick his way of saying things, you can pick yours.

EDIT: Thank you, CanOLA. Couldn't have said it better.

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Everything he posts is trolling. How can you not see that?

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ahem...... Roasy, now dont do anthing stupid, okay?


its not Trolling. alot of things he posts are smart and understandable, but when you say he's trolling, your just trolling yourself.

Toastpaint.

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How exactly isn't it trolling? He purposely posts provocative statements and cuts up pieces of other people's arguments and uses them as his own in an attempt to aggrivate everyone. THAT'S trolling. The fact that he never backs his opinions, uses quotes or links to resources shows he's not arguing properly. All he ever does is flame people and rag others on. I'm sorry, but this isn't my opinion, that IS trolling, and if you disagree you're biased because you agree with some of what he says or you just plain don't know what trolling means.

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You know, not to be rude, but when i read that i thought "That bassicly Describes you, too", and bassicly, thats all you do when it comes to Disscussing things here in the R&P.

Toastpaint

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No, it doesn't, because I never just butt in with two line minuature napalm grenades, I presented a well backed opinion, and that's still what I do. You have a loose grip on reality if you think my arguing is anything like his "arguing".

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Roasy, it bassicly is the same thing, except when hes not attacking you or DP, you or DP is atacking him.

Toastpaint.

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I don't attack unless provoked. I'd say that I was provoked.

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Same. Unless I find opinions that outright disgust me I don't react angrily.

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Your problem is, everything you don't agree with outright disgusts you..

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

That's asbolutely not true and I warned you about candy coated things by making them look like mere "Opposing opinions" without giving them substance.

Unfortunately, a lot of opinions are expressed here which are offensive to minorities. They do indeed disgust me. Now, I do like a lot of the people here, and I do enjoy being on the forum. But that doesn't change that there are people here that really do disgust me.

There are certain people here who I disagree with who do not disgust me. What's Her Face is one of them. I've even disagreed with Sui once or twice in the past. When the disagreements are based on discrimination, that's when I loose respect.

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How do you even know who is a minority and who isn't? How do you define minority, anyway?

That seems like a pretty silly question. Dictionary.com does a pretty good jorb

mi·nor·i·ty Audio pronunciation of "minority" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-nôr-t, -nr-, m-)
n. pl. mi·nor·i·ties

1.
1. The smaller in number of two groups forming a whole.
2. A group or party having fewer than a controlling number of votes.
2.
1. An ethnic, racial, religious, or other group having a distinctive presence within a society.
2. A group having little power or representation relative to other groups within a society.
3. A member of one of these groups. See Usage Note at color.

Emphasis mine.

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I appreciate the help, Stu, but my question was how does Rose define the term.

I also stand by my point that Rose has no idea what nationality, race, creed, or sexual orientation most of us are.

Um, actually, while i might not be sure on race, most people make it pretty clear on the other 3.

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Uhh... doesn't this turn right back around on you? You're obviously biased against him because you don't agree with some of the things he says. And from your complaints thus far, it seems you don't really know what trolling is either.

He may seem offensive to you. Try explaining to him why you don't agree with him, instead of refusing to listen to logic and throwing the word "troll" at him whenever he passes by.


I can't even begin to comment on what an immense load of crap that is. Do you honestly think we're gaining up on you, trying to make you feel like a freakin' minority? There are few, if any, hurtful minorities in this forum.

Example: Me. I'm white, male, straight, conservative, Christian, and under 18. Most, maybe all, of the Forum is white, yes, including you, so we'll eliminate that. I'm male, which is obviously common, but not immensely. I'd say we're about 80% - 20% male/female, though that's probably an exaggeration. You have plenty of other females here, and you do agree with males, so it's obviously not a gender majority.

Sexual Orientation: you've said a few times that you're a transsexual. Wikipedia tells me that this means you don't feel like a female, or something to that extent. Has anyone ever complained to you about this? Have you ever felt prejudiced on this forum because you're transsexual? Somehow, I think not. We've had a few homosexuals here, and not a single one has ever felt like they're in a "minority". We're civil enough for that.

Political Orientation: If there was a minority here, I would be in it. But you're an obvious liberal (and you've been very offensive to conservatives, anyway) so you shouldn't have any trouble as a minority in that, should you?

Religion. This is pretty much the only field where you have any reason to lodge a complaint. But, has anyone ever chastised you for being a pagan? Have we excluded you? Some may think that your practices are ridiculous, but has anyone ever outright complained to you about it? But then, you yourself turn around and, at least once, chastise the Christians for doing what we do (in that Christmas traditions thread, what I'm thinking). And you say you're in a minority?

Age. No one has ever had any problems with this. From Ninti and The Noid to Didymus and Hosehead, we're all one big happy Forum Fambly.

Judging from all of this, I can safely say that you are not in any minority on this Forum, and probably never will be. The Homestar Runner Wiki Forum isn't a place where we bash others' personal preferences. Although frankly, that seems to be something you should learn.

**steps off soapbox**

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No, you've got it the other way around actually, I certainly feel very female; otherwise, why would I use female names, post pictures of me dressed up pretty, and otherwise? And people haven't complained because A) It hasn't come up as an issue, B) Some people don't even understand what it is. Lahimatoa was certainly quite offensive with his "Personal Responsibilities" thread.

And why are you speaking for homosexuals exactly? I haven't seen them react one way or another. But I can't see how Seamusz's "Gay is a choice - I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm older than you therefore it is fact" wouldn't offend any homosexual.



Are you blind or just unobservant? Count any single topic here and you'll find there are far more conservatives than liberals by a long shot. Where do you even begin to get that? I can count on one hand, at most two, the active liberals on this forum, but I'd need to at least use my feet as well to count the conservatives. Show me the slew of liberals you claim inhabit these forums.

I don't know why CCs pretend like they're a minority. You're not. Maybe on some forusm you would be, but I haven't been on many forums so CC dominated as this one.



According to Seamusz, unless you're as hold as him, your opinions don't count. Which means most of the forum...



It was rather blatant in the Christmas topics people were having trouble accepting quite how much of their traditions weren't their own.

Just because there hasn't been outright discrimination, doesn't mean there hasn't been. Outright discrimination doesn't happen too often, but this kind of rubbish does. It's more being inconsiderate than discriminative.



I really stances like this, for one reason mainly; there is prejudice and there is discrimination, and all you achieve is the drawing of attention away from that.

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Rosalie, I would appretiate it if you will not misrepresent what I say. I would ask those who read her post not to believe her interpretation.

This is what I said regarding age:

http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=273611&highlight=#273611

http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=273584&highlight=#273584

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You are using age to back your argument, which is indeed a fallacy and just plain patronising and annoying. That's the third time you've done it now, too. In a debate, you leave your age at the door. Yet you have consistently brought it up.

Also, your sig is ridiculous and just goes to show the levels of your immaturity. I have never posted anything in my signature or avatar similiarly offensive to conservatives, and I have acknowledged that not all conservtives are stupid, just stupid ones. Not only that, my reaction is more understandable as many conservatives are against rights I need to live life properly. Nothing I believe in will strip you of rights, at least not ones that are of any level of importance. The fact that you potty mouth an organisation that defends the rights of people like me so we don't get trampled shows a lot about your views, no doubt making up rubbish about them going "Too far" which doesn't acknowledge the good you do.
You are not interested in homosexual equality, or many other forms of minority equality . If you claim otherwise, you are lying, as your dismissal of just about anything that progresses to that state means you do not wish it to be.

Take a hint; aclu are what(currently) defend your ignorant beliefs too.

A more apt defition of "Liberal" would be "most prominant view of the civilised world outside of america".

You're just being a jerk, as usual.

I believe Sui is considerably younger than me(I'm 19), and he's probably the most mature person on the board. Age means squat. You can spent a year being exposed to the truth, or live a life of lies.

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It would help, Rosalie, if you had a list of rules for all of us to abide by, so our arguments passed your high standards.

EDIT TO ADD: My signature is a joke, its supposed to be funny.

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I'm sorry you feel keeping ageism out of an argument is "High Standards". Considering you're an extremely unintelligent person when it comes to debating, it's obviously one of the few things you can fall back on.

ANd, there are plenty of rules for debating online.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacies is a good place to start. Though if you do read that, you'll probably mis-use every single one of them to make your point, thus defeating the point of giving you that link. But, just so you know they're there.

Your signature isn't a "joke", it's just plain stupid. I certainly haven't made "Jokes" like that about conservatives. You declaring it as a joke doesn't make a difference since it's obviously meant to be a joke. It being a "joke" doesn't suddenly make it acceptible, your failure to understand this is probably why you don't "agree" with P.C.

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When have I ever insulted you? When have I called your opinions stupid, or you stupid? Im sorry that you cannot be open minded enough to consider the arguments and opinions of others, but please either learn to respect others opinions or leave the religion and politics forum.

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1. It's not that no Christian knows about the roots of the holiday we celebrate, it that no Christian cares. I suppose that it's a very good thing for you, as a pagan, to understand the holiday you celebrate, but just because we're re-using the basic date and premise, doesn't mean it's necessary that we dance around a stone circle in a purple robe. Christmas has a few pagan roots. That's fine. But I don't care, because for me, Christmas is about the birth of Jesus.

2. I appreciate your editing your post to say that you just hate my stance, not me.

3. uno dos tres cuatro cinco seis siete ocho nueve diez once doce trece catorce quince
Some Democrats for ya. Or at least some who have specifically said at some point that they are Democrats.

EDIT: So, seamusz can't poke fun at liberals in his sig, but you can bash conservatives all you freakin' want to, eh?

Sound logic for ya. What was that you said about "fallacies"?

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You are by no means open minded. You've insulted me in an uncountable number of shapes and forms. "You suck" is probably the weakest forum of insults. Things like ageism, forcing that being gay is a choice, your sig, all of those things are insulting and things you are conciously aware of. I am very respecting of people, but I don't tolerate bigotry or support for bigotry.



Well, that's WORSE, I don't see how it couldn't be.

TEF, I already dealth with the "Me bashing conservatives" thing will you PLEASE pay attention.

"I'm tired of people sidestepping this. But it's true, the majority of bigots ARE socially conservative. That's what much of social conservatism here. I have no problem with fiscal conservatism. I do with social conservatism. "

Where was I saying anything on the level of seamusz's sig exactly? I said that the majority of bigots are socially conservative, which they are, as liberalism doesn't pander to it as much. That could just be because of some technicality rather than conservatism being wrong, and I didn't outright say that.
I said I have a problem with social conservatism, though I didn't joke about their brains falling out. There's a huge difference.

And actually, I mainly made that topic because of what people were accusing Liberals of. If you read it, you'd see that.

I'm sick of people looking for "Ooooh you did the same" where I blatantly didn't.

You're inventing reasons to hate me.

Actually, the sheer lashback I'm getting now, and the "cool your opinion" is pretty much proof free speech doesn't stand near as much as people claim it does. Some of you don't have a problem with racists, but you do with me? Check your priorities.

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Maybe, Rose, the backlash against you has something to do with the fact that you are one of the the most abrasive and frustrating people anyone on this forum has had to deal with.

Of course, I still agree with the majority of what you believe (anti-Americanism aside) but you make it hard for anyone on the fence to see things from your point of view.

You ought to tone down the rhetoric. You're certainly not helping your cause any. People will disagree with you just out of spite, because they just can't stand your personality.

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I don't recall being anti-american. I have nothing strongly against the values America was founded on, at least as best as they knew at the time. Apparently, some people here do.

I am certainly not the most abrasive or frustrating person - what about Lahimatoa, Seamus's constant ageism, what about Frotzer? You're saying I'm worse than Frotzer? That's reason enough to leave it at that.

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