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I move that the locking of my Cthulhu thread was premature. If I had thought more about what to say, I would have had a just reason to keep it. I don't think it was right of you to lock it, nor to warn me. After all, this is a forum: it's supposed to be fun.

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Ragnarök is coming: Cthulhu is on your side!

To this I say

AND I locked it because the only posts made were you making pointless posts to bump it. Making pointless posts is spam.
If anyone wants to continue a discussion about Lovecraft, they will. If not, it will fade away. Making bump posts will result in me locking it.
That's the way it is.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

What if I decide one day that I have an Idea to post, will that count as "just bumpping it?"

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Ragnarök is coming: Cthulhu is on your side!

Actual posts with meaning are perfectly legal.

Posts that say
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are not.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

I'd have to concur with SR. And frankly, I would lock this topic myself, since the whole gist of it seems to be a challenge to the authority of the mods. But that's just me. I'll have to leave that up to SR for now.

By the way, as far as the legitimacy of "Lovecraftianism": IT'S FICTION, PEOPLE! Lovecraft wrote this stuff to ENTERTAIN. It has no more validity as a religion than, say, "Buffy The Bampire Slayerism"!

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ooh or how about "land of the lostism". mmm sleestaks. err anway, i think the last post was rightfully locked and it doesn't matter whether it was right or not because mods are always right so uh yeah the thread deserved it anyway.

Just to keep the record straight, I didn't lock it because I didn't agree with it. While I find the idea of Cthulhu laughable, that's not why I locked it.
I locked it because he made 2 (3 counting a double post that I think was accidental) spammy posts just to bump the thread.
Now, I use the new emoticon and say TOASTPAINT

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

yeah i knew that you didn't lock it over your personal ideas. and back on topic: never read lovecraft at all, and i hear he isn't a terrible writer but fiction is fiction for me.

Okay, steve, i should have said this a long time ago:
If you want to disscuss lovecraftianism, Cthulhuism, Dagonism, whatever-ism, go to the temple of dagon forums, you'll be better off over there with JJ Burke, Aleister, and Odin2. ohh, and watch out for that Jesus Prime if you decide to go.

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Blasphemer!

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No, I don't think it's a legitimate religion. How can it be? You could probably look in Lovecraft's book in which he wrote about Cthulhu and look at the copyright page, and it says "THIS IS A WORK OF FICTION." I mean, that's......pretty solid.

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I myself am a longstanding fan of Lovecraft and I've read a fair amount of his correspondence. The man was a devoted atheist and rationalist and probably would've been disgusted by the idea of a "religion" based on his writings, especially one bearing his cherished family name.

On the other hand, Lovecraft often put forward the idea that "real" religions were just as false as blatantly fictional religions, and thus in logical terms they all had the same value. By that argument "Lovecraftianism" is as legit as anything else!

Mike

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Logical fallacies ahoy! I'd also like to say: graaaaagh!

Who are we to say what religions are legitimate and which are not? I mean, it sounds improbable, but so, to me, does Christianity, which is certainly a legitimate religion. Anything is really a legitimate religion legally, unless it advocates the harm of others. And that's just legally. In real life, nobody really knows what religion (if any) is really the "right" or "best" one....

Yeah, and also, Ctool-hoo-whatever-ism is kinda dumb, really. But not any less legitimate. Just kinda dumb. *ducks*

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

Except, Einoo, we can pretty much say that the fictional writings of a fantasy author are most definitely not a good source for religious truth. IT'S FICTION PEOPLE! Cthulhu only ever existed in the mind of H. P. Lovecraft.

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You can only say that if he himself said or implied it was fiction. I sincerely doubt that [s]anything[/s] many things written in the Bible were true.

*runs away*

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

Actually, I'm under the impression that Lovecraft DID say it was fiction.. If not, then I dunno what to say..

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

Einoo, I really hope you intended for this post to be entirely a joke. If not, then you have literally no concept of what the term "literary genre" means. If that is the case, then let me set you straight: Lovecraft wrote entertaining short stories set in a mythical world. In literary circles that is called "fiction." On the other hand, the writings of Scripture were intended to be read, not as mere fanciful stories, but as a serious account of what actually happened. In literary circles that is called "history." A good example would be the four gospels of the New Testament, all of which are biographies of a real flesh-and-blood man named Jesus of Nazareth, which all four of these writers intended for their readers to understand to be a real person who actually did real things.

So here you have it:
1. Lovecraft - fanciful stories in a fictional world with the intention to entertain - FICTION.
2. The Bible - historical narrative set in real historical places with the intention that the readers believe - HISTORICAL.

SR - it doesn't even really matter if Lovecraft ever point blank said, "This is just fiction." He doesn't have to. The settings, tones, themes, etc., all indicate that this is fiction. It is clear from his writing that he intended these stories to be for entertainment purposes only, and not the foundation of a serious religion.

Lovecraftianism has no more validity as a religion than "Lostism" or "24ism" or "Days Of Our Livesism."

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You have a point. The Bible may not be true, but I guess it is more... what's that word? Oh, yes. It's more reliable than HP Lovecraft.

So yeah. But I still don't think the Bible is really true. Parts of it are true, though. Like, last time I checked I'm pretty sure that Israel exists....

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

Exactly how much investigating have you done to be able to speak authoritatively about what is and isn't true in the Bible?

My guess is very little?

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It's as real as Scientology.

And you can take that however you please.

Yes, but I don't care. As far as I'm concerned, the two very most fundamental (not THAT kind of fundamental) concepts in the Bible are not true. I will illustrate what I believe.

A. God is not real.
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B. Therefore, either Jesus never existed (not likely) or that he was not the Messiah (much more likely).

The rest may or may not be true. But I'm just not willing to read through the entire boring thing just to find out what's true and what's not.

There. I may not be right, but that is what I think. So I have telled what u, or I, or whatever, think. Er, thinks. Or something.

Anyway, this is not about Christianity. It is about Lovecraftianism.

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

Why is this thread back to life? we all know now, there is no religion based on lovecraft!!!!
there! i said it! THERE IS NO RELIGION BASED ON LOVECRAFT!!!!
its all just something that got way out of hand the days when i started experimenting with drugs. i started reading Lovecraft when i was on em, and i got the impression to make it the next Scientology.
im off them now, but because so many people down here and some on the internet started to belive, i wrote a book pudblished on LuLu.com that has only made me $26.00.
Im no better than L. Ron Hubbard himself, except that im not obbsessed with Abortions and into satanic ways of thinking.
now please, someone lock this and make sure nothing like it ever surfaces again!

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Well, praise God that you're clean, COLA.

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im agnostic and proud.

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So basically, you're basing your assessment on assumptions that you cannot prove, and have basically no authority to declare. (i.e., blowing smoke). Just as long as we're straight on that. I would, however, suggest you actually do some real investigation and research, since, as one who has done the research and has a Masters to prove it, I feel your assessment entirely incorrect.

You're the one who brought this up, Einoo. So if you're going to make disparaging remarks against my faith, then either back up what you say with some facts or apologize and shut up.

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I'm not going to say anything.


COLA, you used drugs? Huh. I wouldn't've put it past you.....

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

im an anarchistic little smart *ss with knowledge into things noone else here knows, or would care to know.
why wouldnt i use drugs to drown out the remarks of others here and in real life?
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Occultists who believe that Lovecraft was writing about cosmic truth have actually been around for decades now. They exist mostly as subsets of Satanist, Setian, and similar groups. Some see Cthulhu as a sort of archetype, others think he's really in the Pacific somewhere. The belief predates lulu.com, predates this message board, and predates most of the people who post here.

Mike

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Logical fallacies ahoy! I'd also like to say: graaaaagh!

are there any 90 year olds who post here on the forum?

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