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| Author: | Karmaism [ Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:09 pm ] |
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Hey its Karmaism, Just putting it out there: Should Marijuana Be Legal? Personally, I feel drugs only cause harm and legalizing them is a very bad thing.It shows youth who are faced with the choice that drugs are ok. Discuss. |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:49 pm ] |
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I'm for medicinal marijuna. Obviously you shouldn't prescribe it for anything, but if a patient is in serious pain, marijuana can dull the sufferring immensely. |
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| Author: | Karmaism [ Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:59 pm ] |
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Ju Ju Master wrote: I'm for medicinal marijuna. Obviously you shouldn't prescribe it for anything, but if a patient is in serious pain, marijuana can dull the sufferring immensely.
There are other ways to dull pain then drugs dont u think? |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:14 pm ] |
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Karmaism wrote: There are other ways to dull pain then drugs dont u think?
No. Maybe ways other than currently-illegal drugs, but not ways other than drugs. - Kef |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:51 pm ] |
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Karmaism wrote: Ju Ju Master wrote: I'm for medicinal marijuna. Obviously you shouldn't prescribe it for anything, but if a patient is in serious pain, marijuana can dull the sufferring immensely. There are other ways to dull pain then drugs dont u think? Not as well. Anything that dulls the pain as well as marijuana is itself illegal. Marijuana is illegal because it's so powerful, anything as powerful would be illegal, too. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:32 am ] |
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I can support Marijuana for medical purposes only. Marijuana, while people think it's harmless, can lead to other, harder drugs. |
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| Author: | Karmaism [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:39 am ] |
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ramrod wrote: I can support Marijuana for medical purposes only. Marijuana, while people think it's harmless, can lead to other, harder drugs.
What message are we sending to youth by allowing drugs at all? Ok scenario- You get a prescription: Overdose Don't use it responsibly Share it with a buddy The drug trade would boom Doctors could sell drugs easily. It would be tragic. |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:50 am ] |
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Karmaism wrote: What message are we sending to youth by allowing drugs at all?
Almost every medical remedey is a drug. Tylenol? A drug. You could easily overdose on that, too (And I beleive you can also get high on it). Saying that we shouldn't allow drugs at all is a terrible argument. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:57 am ] |
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Well, the media now downplays the true effects of marijuana. They even endorse it in movies such as Half Baked and Dazed and Confused. They treat it as nothing. |
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| Author: | Karmaism [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:45 am ] |
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ramrod wrote: Well, the media now downplays the true effects of marijuana. They even endorse it in movies such as Half Baked and Dazed and Confused. They treat it as nothing. I agree.Drugs ruins lives and causes humour it isnt a laughing matter. Ju Ju Master wrote: Almost every medical remedey is a drug. Tylenol? A drug. You could easily overdose on that, too (And I beleive you can also get high on it). Saying that we shouldn't allow drugs at all is a terrible argument..
True but this is different it is made to get you high easily Tylenol is different. |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:54 am ] |
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And what is it about "being able to get you high easily" that makes it unsuitable for medicinal purposes? |
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| Author: | Karmaism [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:56 am ] |
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furrykef wrote: And what is it about "being able to get you high easily" that makes it unsuitable for medicinal purposes?
Its a recreational drug-tylenol isn't-No comparison |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:57 am ] |
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It is a recreational drug because people use it that way. If you use a "recreational" drug for medicinal purposes, it's no longer recreational, is it? It should be noted that a lot of medical drugs are used recreationally, too, but they're not considered "recreational drugs" in general. |
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| Author: | Karmaism [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:06 am ] |
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furrykef wrote: It is a recreational drug because people use it that way. If you use a "recreational" drug for medicinal purposes, it's no longer recreational, is it?
It should be noted that a lot of medical drugs are used recreationally, too, but they're not considered "recreational drugs" in general. Its the message we are sending-Drugs are ok!It means easier access to drugs more people have marijuana.Also, Marijuana is easily abused i have never heard of a tylenol addict.Smoke weed-Get high.Overdose Tylenol-Feel sick. |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:13 am ] |
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Lots of drugs are easily abused, but we don't see a lot of public outcry asking for them to be banned. A lot of these are much worse than marijuana in terms of negative effects... like OxyContin, which is like heroin, but perfectly legal if you have a legitimate need for it. What makes marijuana worse than OxyContin? Tylenol's not a very good example. No, overdosing on Tylenol isn't so likely to have a bad effect on you as overdosing on a more serious drug. But at the same time, Tylenol just isn't going to cut it for some things. It's not a powerful drug. Powerful drugs tend to have negative effects. There's a tradeoff there. - Kef |
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:18 am ] |
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yeah, it should be legal. alcohol and cigarettes are legal, and they're both much more harmful than marijuana is. i don't personally do drugs, but i don't see the big deal about it either. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:37 am ] |
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Cobalt wrote: yeah, it should be legal. alcohol and cigarettes are legal, and they're both much more harmful than marijuana is. i don't personally do drugs, but i don't see the big deal about it either.
I wouldn't say that they're "much more harmful" then marijuana, but I will certainly agree with ya. There is definitely a hypocrisy there. Saying "marijuana is/should be illegal because it's dangerous, yet allowing alcohol and/or cigraettes makes about as much sense as selling your tires for gas money. The biggest threat marijuana poses is the fact that people think it's harmless. If you smoke it, you're still smoking. I only bring this up because I used to work with a guy that refused to even go into a room where people were smoking cigarettes (he'd say "I'm not getting cancer!"), yet he smoked enough pot to make Snoop Dogg tell him he should cut back. |
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| Author: | Artvandelay [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:48 am ] |
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I'm just throwing this out there, and I could be completely wrong. If marijuana were made legal, a small number of manufacturers would produce enough to sell commercially. But you could still grow stronger marijuana than you could get at the store. At this point, you still have the transport of drugs around the country and the continent - plus, you have new users in the checkout line at the local market; people who perhaps were afraid to try it as an illegal drug would be more willing to experiment with it being legal. Since such a large number of people would be using, the numbers of fatalities and car wrecks would surely approach the numbers caused by alcohol. I will concede and say that alcohol's effects would remain stronger. I just don't see how it makes sense to legalize. |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:19 am ] |
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We have to make a distinction between legalizing for any use and legalizing for medicinal use. These are two entirely different matters, and I don't like how they often get lumped together (although it's unavoidable). If it's legalized only for medicinal use, you couldn't just walk down to the store and buy weed, so to speak. Nor would it be easy to just get a prescription for it; doctors know that potent drugs shouldn't be given out frivolously, and I believe that would go for marijuana as it does with anything else. As for recreational use, I really don't have much of an opinion. Some of my best friends do it. I don't, and almost certainly never will. But I don't have enough experience with it, or with my friends (only my online friends do it) to really understand the issue on a personal level. So until then, I'll probably abstain from having an opinion on that issue, only debating specific points about it. - Kef |
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| Author: | Artvandelay [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:22 am ] |
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furrykef wrote: We have to make a distinction between legalizing for any use and legalizing for medicinal use.
You're right and I should have thought of that. My opinion was based on the viewpoint some have about complete legalization. I'm not sure how I feel on medicinal usage. In that sense I think a doctor would (and should) be ethical enough to understand which situations warrant the prescription of marijuana. |
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| Author: | Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:25 am ] |
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Well, theyres one thing Hillary clinton has said that i have to Agree with: Hillary Clinton wrote: a bag of Marijuana is safer for kids than a Video Game
i do belive Marijuana should be legalized, but only a small ammount, like a few ounces. alot of people say that Marijuana is a Gateway drug, but more than 70% of people say that they tried Alcohol first, so Alcohol is more of a Gateway drug than marijuana is. Marijuana is only Illegal because in the early 20's or so, Cotton farmers didnt want to be outsourced by something else, so they made Marijuana growing Illegal so cotton wouldnt be outsourced. it wasnt until the 50's when the Drug culture started that Marijuana was made to look as the evil work of the devil. in the 60's, Marijuana was popular among a movement of Hippies, and because the hippies just loafed around smoking, doing nothing, they were portrayed as communists, so people began to hate them and whatever they do. now onto the matter at hand, the government grows Marijuana and sends it out to hundreds of people for medical purposes, even though the government are the ones saying that marijuana is bad. in all actuallities, Marijuana is only bad if you go out driving, Just like Alcohol. Marijuana gives out similar effects as alcohol. Alcohol was banned once, but brought back to do the impact it had on the nation. marijuana is just like alcohol, and eventually it will be legalized. 18 to buy tobacco products, 21 to buy alcohol, 20 to buy Marijuana. |
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| Author: | Shopiom [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:08 am ] |
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Kids, don't smoke marijuana, m'kay? Sorry, couldn't resist. In all seriousness, I don't think it should be legal. I did a report on it last year, and realized just how dangerous it was. Sure it makes you happy, but it's not worth all the kinds of cancer it'll cause you. Not to mention coughing and possible heart attacks. And God knows what you could do while you're high. You could get in a lot of trouble if you do live. As for easing pain, there are other ways for it that aren't nearly as dangerous or addictive. |
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| Author: | Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:10 am ] |
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The DPA wrote: MYTH: MARIJUANA'S HARMS HAVE BEEN PROVED SCIENTIFICALLY. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.
FACT: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health." MYTH: MARIJUANA HAS NO MEDICINAL VALUE. Safer, more effective drugs are available. They include a synthetic version of THC, marijuana's primary active ingredient, which is marketed in the United States under the name Marinol. FACT: Marijuana has been shown to be effective in reducing the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy, stimulating appetite in AIDS patients, and reducing intraocular pressure in people with glaucoma. There is also appreciable evidence that marijuana reduces muscle spasticity in patients with neurological disorders. A synthetic capsule is available by prescription, but it is not as effective as smoked marijuana for many patients. Pure THC may also produce more unpleasant psychoactive side effects than smoked marijuana. Many people use marijuana as a medicine today, despite its illegality. In doing so, they risk arrest and imprisonment. MYTH: MARIJUANA IS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE. Long term marijuana users experience physical dependence and withdrawal, and often need professional drug treatment to break their marijuana habits. FACT: Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Others seek help from drug treatment professionals. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild. MYTH: MARIJUANA IS A GATEWAY DRUG. Even if marijuana itself causes minimal harm, it is a dangerous substance because it leads to the use of "harder drugs" like heroin, LSD, and cocaine. FACT: Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug. MYTH: MARIJUANA OFFENSES ARE NOT SEVERELY PUNISHED. Few marijuana law violators are arrested and hardly anyone goes to prison. This lenient treatment is responsible for marijuana continued availability and use. FACT: Marijuana arrests in the United States doubled between 1991 and 1995. In 1995, more than one-half-million people were arrested for marijuana offenses. Eighty-six percent of them were arrested for marijuana possession. Tens of thousands of people are now in prison or marijuana offenses. An even greater number are punished with probation, fines, and civil sanctions, including having their property seized, their driver's license revoked, and their employment terminated. Despite these civil and criminal sanctions, marijuana continues to be readily available and widely used. MYTH: MARIJUANA POLICY IN THE NETHERLANDS IS A FAILURE. Dutch law, which allows marijuana to be bought, sold, and used openly, has resulted in increasing rates of marijuana use, particularly in youth. FACT: The Netherlands' drug policy is the most nonpunitive in Europe. For more than twenty years, Dutch citizens over age eighteen have been permitted to buy and use cannabis (marijuana and hashish) in government-regulated coffee shops. This policy has not resulted in dramatically escalating cannabis use. For most age groups, rates of marijuana use in the Netherlands are similar to those in the United States. However, for young adolescents, rates of marijuana use are lower in the Netherlands than in the United States. The Dutch people overwhelmingly approve of current cannabis policy which seeks to normalize rather than dramatize cannabis use. The Dutch government occasionally revises existing policy, but it remains committed to decriminalization. MYTH: MARIJUANA KILLS BRAIN CELLS. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity. FACT: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study. MYTH: MARIJUANA CAUSES AN AMOTIVATIONAL SYNDROME. Marijuana makes users passive, apathetic, and uninterested in the future. Students who use marijuana become underachievers and workers who use marijuana become unproductive. FACT: For twenty-five years, researchers have searched for a marijuana-induced amotivational syndrome and have failed to find it. People who are intoxicated constantly, regardless of the drug, are unlikely to be productive members of society. There is nothing about marijuana specifically that causes people to lose their drive and ambition. In laboratory studies, subjects given high doses of marijuana for several days or even several weeks exhibit no decrease in work motivation or productivity. Among working adults, marijuana users tend to earn higher wages than non-users. College students who use marijuana have the same grades as nonusers. Among high school students, heavy use is associated with school failure, but school failure usually comes first. MYTH: MARIJUANA IMPAIRS MEMORY AND COGNITION. Under the influence of marijuana, people are unable to think rationally and intelligently. Chronic marijuana use causes permanent mental impairment. FACT: Marijuana produces immediate, temporary changes in thoughts, perceptions, and information processing. The cognitive process most clearly affected by marijuana is short-term memory. In laboratory studies, subjects under the influence of marijuana have no trouble remembering things they learned previously. However, they display diminished capacity to learn and recall new information. This diminishment only lasts for the duration of the intoxication. There is no convincing evidence that heavy long-term marijuana use permanently impairs memory or other cognitive functions. MYTH: MARIJUANA CAN CAUSE PERMANENT MENTAL ILLNESS. Among adolescents, even occasional marijuana use may cause psychological damage. During intoxication, marijuana users become irrational and often behave erratically. FACT: There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Some marijuana users experience psychological distress following marijuana ingestion, which may include feelings of panic, anxiety, and paranoia. Such experiences can be frightening, but the effects are temporary. With very large doses, marijuana can cause temporary toxic psychosis. This occurs rarely, and almost always when marijuana is eaten rather than smoked. Marijuana does not cause profound changes in people's behavior. MYTH: MARIJUANA CAUSES CRIME. Marijuana users commit more property offenses than nonusers. Under the influence of marijuana, people become irrational, aggressive, and violent. FACT: Every serious scholar and government commission examining the relationship between marijuana use and crime has reached the same conclusion: marijuana does not cause crime. The vast majority of marijuana users do not commit crimes other than the crime of possessing marijuana. Among marijuana users who do commit crimes, marijuana plays no causal role. Almost all human and animal studies show that marijuana decreases rather than increases aggression. MYTH: MARIJUANA INTERFERES WITH MALE AND FEMALE SEX HORMONES. In both men and women, marijuana can cause infertility. Marijuana retards sexual development in adolescents. It produces feminine characteristics in males and masculine characteristics in females. FACT: There is no evidence that marijuana causes infertility in men or women. In animal studies, high doses of THC diminish the production of some sex hormones and can impair reproduction. However, most studies of humans have found that marijuana has no impact of sex hormones. In those studies showing an impact, it is modest, temporary, and of no apparent consequence for reproduction. There is no scientific evidence that marijuana delays adolescent sexual development, has feminizing effect on males, or a masculinizing effect on females. MYTH: MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY DAMAGES THE FETUS. Prenatal marijuana exposure causes birth defects in babies, and, as they grow older, developmental problems. The health and well being of the next generation is threatened by marijuana use by pregnant women. FACT: Studies of newborns, infants, and children show no consistent physical, developmental, or cognitive deficits related to prenatal marijuana exposure. Marijuana had no reliable impact on birth size, length of gestation, neurological development, or the occurrence of physical abnormalities. The administration of hundreds of tests to older children has revealed only minor differences between offspring of marijuana users and nonusers, and some are positive rather than negative. Two unconfirmed case-control studies identified prenatal marijuana exposure as one of many factors statistically associated with childhood cancer. Given other available evidence, it is highly unlikely that marijuana causes cancer in children. MYTH: MARIJUANA USE IMPAIRS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. Marijuana users are at increased risk of infection, including HIV. AIDS patients are particularly vulnerable to marijuana's immunopathic effects because their immune systems are already suppressed. FACT: There is no evidence that marijuana users are more susceptible to infections than nonusers. Nor is there evidence that marijuana lowers users' resistance to sexually transmitted diseases. Early studies which showed decreased immune function in cells taken from marijuana users have since been disproved. Animals given extremely large doses of THC and exposed to a virus have higher rates of infection. Such studies have little relevance to humans. Even among people with existing immune disorders, such as AIDS, marijuana use appears to be relatively safe. However, the recent finding of an association between tobacco smoking and lung infection in AIDS patients warrants further research into possible harm from marijuana smoking in immune suppressed persons. MYTH: MARIJUANA IS MORE DAMAGING TO THE LUNGS THAN TOBACCO. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema. FACT: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana. MYTH: MARIJUANA'S ACTIVE INGREDIENT, THC, GETS TRAPPED IN BODY FAT. Because THC is released from fat cells slowly, psychoactive effects may last for days or weeks following use. THC's long persistence in the body damages organs that are high in fat content, the brain in particular. FACT: Many active drugs enter the body's fat cells. What is different (but not unique) about THC is that it exits fat cells slowly. As a result, traces of marijuana can be found in the body for days or weeks following ingestion. However, within a few hours of smoking marijuana, the amount of THC in the brain falls below the concentration required for detectable psychoactivity. The fat cells in which THC lingers are not harmed by the drug's presence, nor is the brain or other organs. The most important consequence of marijuana's slow excretion is that it can be detected in blood, urine, and tissue long after it is used, and long after its psychoactivity has ended. MYTH: MARIJUANA USE IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF HIGHWAY ACCIDENTS. Like alcohol, marijuana impairs psychomotor function and decreases driving ability. If marijuana use increases, an increase in of traffic fatalities is inevitable. FACT: There is no compelling evidence that marijuana contributes substantially to traffic accidents and fatalities. At some doses, marijuana affects perception and psychomotor performances- changes which could impair driving ability. However, in driving studies, marijuana produces little or no car-handling impairment- consistently less than produced by low moderate doses of alcohol and many legal medications. In contrast to alcohol, which tends to increase risky driving practices, marijuana tends to make subjects more cautious. Surveys of fatally injured drivers show that when THC is detected in the blood, alcohol is almost always detected as well. For some individuals, marijuana may play a role in bad driving. The overall rate of highway accidents appears not to be significantly affected by marijuana's widespread use in society. MYTH: MARIJUANA RELATED HOSPITAL EMERGENCIES ARE INCREASING, PARTICULARLY AMONG YOUTH. This is evidence that marijuana is much more harmful than most people previously believed. FACT: Marijuana does not cause overdose deaths. The number of people in hospital emergency rooms who say they have used marijuana has increased. On this basis, the visit may be recorded as marijuana-related even if marijuana had nothing to do with the medical condition preceding the hospital visit. Many more teenagers use marijuana than use drugs such as heroin and cocaine. As a result, when teenagers visit hospital emergency rooms, they report marijuana much more frequently than they report heroin and cocaine. In the large majority of cases when marijuana is mentioned, other drugs are mentioned as well. In 1994, fewer than 2% of drug related emergency room visits involved the use of marijuana. MYTH: MARIJUANA IS MORE POTENT TODAY THAN IN THE PAST. Adults who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s fail to realize that when today's youth use marijuana they are using a much more dangerous drug. FACT: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC sample sized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects. MYTH: MARIJUANA USE CAN BE PREVENTED. Drug education and prevention programs reduced marijuana use during the 1980s. Since then, our commitment has slackened, and marijuana use has been rising. By expanding and intensifying current anti-marijuana messages, we can stop youthful experimentation. FACT: There is no evidence that anti-drug messages diminish young people's interest in drugs. Anti-drug campaigns in the schools and the media may even make drugs more attractive. Marijuana use among youth declined throughout the 1980s, and began increasing in the 1990s. This increase occurred despite young people's exposure to the most massive anti-marijuana campaign in American history. In a number of other countries, drug education programs are based on a "harm reduction" model, which seeks to reduce the drug-related harm among those young people who do experiment with drugs. *Lynn Zimmer and John Morgan. Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts: A Review of the Scientific Evidence, (New York: The Lindesmith Center, 1997). |
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| Author: | Dr. Lurve [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:34 am ] |
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haha gateway drug, my arse. I mean, I've never smoked dope yet I am totally addicted to crack! Seriously, I'm not sure. One part of me says that people should be able to do what they want with their bodies, but at the same time a lot of people close to me have had really bad problems with drugs. But legalising or not legalising isn't going to stop people from using it. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:57 am ] |
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Actually, Cola, that web site is nothing but pro-pot propoganda and is not reliable. Pot makes people stupid. I've seen it for myself, and no amount of posting web sites is going to change my mind on that. But just so you have the real facts, Quote: Q: What is marijuana? Aren't there different kinds?
A: Marijuana is a green, brown, or gray mixture of dried, shredded leaves, stems, seeds, and flowers of the hemp plant. You may hear marijuana called by street names such as pot, herb, weed, grass, boom, Mary Jane, gangster, or chronic. There are more than 200 slang terms for marijuana. Sinsemilla (sin-seh-me-yah; it’s a Spanish word), hashish (“hash” for short), and hash oil are stronger forms of marijuana. All forms of marijuana are mind-altering. In other words, they change how the brain works. They all contain THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), the main active chemical in marijuana. They also contain more than 400 other chemicals. Marijuana’s effects on the user depend on it’s strength or potency, which is related to the amount of THC it contains(5). The THC content of marijuana has been increasing since the 1970s. Back to the Top of the Page Q: How is marijuana used? A: Marijuana is usually smoked as a cigarette (called a joint or a nail) or in a pipe or a bong. Recently, it has appeared in cigar wrappers called blunts, when it is often combined with another drug, such as crack cocaine. Back to the Top of the Page Q: How long does marijuana stay in the user's body? A: THC in marijuana is rapidly absorbed by fatty tissues in various organs. Generally, traces (metabolites) of THC can be detected by standard urine testing methods several days after a smoking session. However, in chronic heavy users, traces can sometimes be detected for weeks after they have stopped using marijuana. Back to the Top of the Page Q: How many teens smoke marijuana? A: Contrary to popular belief, most teenagers do not use marijuana. Among students surveyed in a yearly national survey, only about one in six 10th graders report they are current marijuana users (that is, used marijuana within the past month). Fewer than one in four high school seniors is a current marijuana user (10). Back to the Top of the Page Q: Why do young people use marijuana? A: There are many reasons why some children and young teens start smoking marijuana. Many young people smoke marijuana because they see their brothers, sisters, friends, or even older family members using it. Some use marijuana because of peer pressure. Others may think it’s cool to use marijuana because they hear songs about it and see it on TV and in movies. Some teens may feel they need marijuana and other drugs to help them escape from problems at home, at school, or with friends. No matter how many shirts and caps you see printed with the marijuana leaf, or how many groups sing about it, remember this: You don’t have to use marijuana just because you think everybody else is doing it. Most teenagers do not use marijuana! Back to the Top of the Page Marijuana Fact: Marijuana can mess up your performance in school, sports and other parts of your life. Q: What happens if you smoke marijuana? A: The way the drug affects each person depends on many factors, including: * user's previous experience with the drug; * how strong the marijuana is (how much THC it has); * what the user expects to happen; * where the drug is used; * how it is taken; and * whether the user is drinking alcohol or using other drugs. Some people feel nothing at all when they smoke marijuana. Others may feel relaxed or high. Sometimes marijuana makes users feel thirsty and very hungry—an effect called "the munchies." Some users can undergo bad effects from marijuana. They may suffer sudden feelings of anxiety and have paranoid thoughts. This is more likely to happen when a more potent variety of marijuana is used. Back to the Top of the Page Q: What are the short-term effects of marijuana use? A: The short-term effects of marijuana include: * problems with memory and learning (11); * distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch) (6); * trouble with thinking and problemsolving (5); * loss of motor coordination; and * increased heart rate. These effects are even greater when other drugs are mixed with the marijuana; and users do not always know what drugs are given to them. Back to the Top of the Page Q: Does marijuana affect school, sports, or other activities? A: It can. Marijuana affects memory, judgment and perception (11). The drug can make you mess up in school, in sports or clubs, or with your friends. If you’re high on marijuana, you are more likely to make mistakes that could embarrass or even hurt you. If you use marijuana a lot, you could start to lose interest in how you look and how you’re getting along at school or work. Athletes could find their performance is off; timing, movements, and coordination are all affected by THC. Also, since marijuana can affect judgment and decisionmaking, its use can lead to risky sexual behavior, resulting in exposure to sexually transmitted diseases like HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Back to the Top of the Page Q: What are the long-term effects of marijuana use? A: Findings so far show that regular use of marijuana or THC may play a role in some kinds of cancer and in problems with the respiratory and immune systems. * Cancer It’s hard to know for sure whether regular marijuana use causes cancer. But it is known that marijuana contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per day may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day (15) . * Lungs and airways People who smoke marijuana often develop the same kinds of breathing problems that cigarette smokers have: coughing and wheezing. They tend to have more chest colds than nonusers. They are also at greater risk of getting lung infections like pneumonia. * Immune system Animal studies have found that THC can damage the cells and tissues in the body that help protect against disease. When the immune cells are weakened you are more likely to get sick. Back to the Top of the Page Q: Does marijuana lead to the use of other drugs? A: It could. Long-term studies of high school students and their patterns of drug use show that very few young people use other illegal drugs without first trying marijuana (7). For example, the risk of using cocaine is much greater for those who have tried marijuana than for those who have never tried it. Using marijuana puts children and teens in contact with people who are users and sellers of other drugs. So there is more of a risk that a marijuana user will be exposed to and urged to try more drugs. To better determine this risk, scientists are examining the possibility that long-term marijuana use may create changes in the brain that make a person more at risk of becoming addicted to other drugs, such as alcohol or cocaine. Further research is needed to predict who will be at greatest risk. Back to the Top of the Page Q: How can you tell if someone has been using marijuana? A: If someone is high on marijuana, he or she might * seem dizzy and have trouble walking; * seem silly and giggly for no reason; * have very red, bloodshot eyes; and * have a hard time remembering things that just happened. When the early effects fade, over a few hours, the user can become very sleepy. Back to the Top of the Page Q: Is marijuana sometimes used as a medicine? A: There has been much talk about the possible medical use of marijuana. Under U.S. law since 1970, marijuana has been a Schedule I controlled substance. This means that the drug, at least in its smoked form, has no commonly accepted medical use. THC, the active chemical in marijuana, is manufactured into a pill available by prescription that can be used to treat the nausea and vomiting that occur with certain cancer treatments and to help AIDS patients eat more to keep up their weight. According to scientists, more research needs to be done on THC's side effects and other potential medical uses. Back to the Top of the Page Marijuana Fact: Marijuana and driving do not mix. Users often have delayed responses to sights and sounds drivers need to notice. Q: How does marijuana affect driving? A: Marijuana has serious harmful effects on the skills required to drive safely: alertness, concentration, coordination, and reaction time. Marijuana use can make it difficult to judge distances and react to signals and sounds on the road. Marijuana may play a role in car accidents. In one study conducted in Memphis, TN, researchers found that, of 150 reckless drivers who were tested for drugs at the arrest scene, 33 percent tested positive for marijuana, and 12 percent tested positive for both marijuana and cocaine (1). Data have also shown that while smoking marijuana, people show the same lack of coordination on standard "drunk driver" tests as do people who have had too much to drink (8). Back to the Top of the Page Q: If a woman is pregnant and smokes marijuana, will it hurt the baby? A: Doctors advise pregnant women not to use any drugs because they could harm the growing fetus. Although one animal study has linked marijuana use to loss of the fetus very early in pregnancy, two studies in humans found no association between marijuana use and early pregnancy loss. More research is necessary to fully understand the effects of marijuana use on pregnancy outcome. Studies in children born to mothers who used marijuana have shown increased behavioral problems during infancy and preschool years. In school, these children are more likely to have problems with decisionmaking, memory, and the ability to remain attentive(2). Researchers are not certain whether health problems that may be caused by early exposure to marijuana will remain as the child grows into adulthood. However, since some parts of the brain continue to develop throughout adolescence, it is also possible that certain kinds of problems may appear as the child matures. Back to the Top of the Page Q: What does marijuana do to the brain? A: Some studies show that when people have smoked large amounts of marijuana for years, the drug takes its toll on mental functions (4). Heavy or daily use of marijuana affects the parts of the brain that control memory, attention, and learning. A working short-term memory is needed to learn and perform tasks that call for more than one or two steps. Smoking marijuana causes some changes in the brain that are like those caused by cocaine, heroin, and alcohol. Scientists are still learning about the many ways that marijuana can affect the brain. Back to the Top of the Page Q: Can people become addicted to marijuana? A: Yes. Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction in some people. That is, they cannot control their urges to seek out and use marijuana, even though it negatively affects their family relationships, school performance, and recreational activities (9). According to one study, marijuana use by teenagers who have prior antisocial problems can quickly lead to addiction (3). In addition, some frequent, heavy marijuana users develop “tolerance” to its effects. This means they need larger and larger amounts of marijuana to get the same desired effects as they used to get from smaller amounts. Back to the Top of the Page Q: What if a person wants to quit using the drug? A: In 2002, over 280,000 people entering drug treatment programs reported marijuana as their primary drug of abuse. However, up until a few years ago, it was hard to find treatment programs specifically for marijuana users. Now researchers are testing different ways to help marijuana users abstain from drug use. There are currently no medications for treating marijuana addiction. Treatment programs focus on counseling and group support systems. There are also a number of programs designed especially to help teenagers who are abusers. Family doctors can be a good source for information and help in dealing with adolescent marijuana problems. Back to the Top of the Page References 1. Brookoff, D.; Cook, C. S.; Williams, C.; and Mann, C. S. Testing reckless drivers for cocaine and marijuana. New England Journal of Medicine, 331:518-522, 1994. 2. Cornelius, M. D.; Taylor, P. M.; Geva, D.; and Day, N. L. Prenatal tobacco and marijuana use among adolescents: effects on offspring gestational age, growth, and morphology. Pediatrics, 95: 738-743. 1995. 3. Crowley, T. J.; Macdonald, M. J.; Whitmore. E. A.; and Mikulich, S. K. Cannabis Dependence, Withdrawal, and Reinforcing Effects Among Adolescents With Conduct Symptoms and Substance Use Disorders. Drug and Alcohol Dependence, 1998. 4. Fletcher, J. M.; Page, J. B.; Francis, D. I.; Copeland, K.; Naus, M. J.; Davis. C. M.; Morris, R.; Krauskopf, D.; and Satz, P. Cognitive correlates of long-term cannabis use in Costa Rican men. Arch. of General Psychiatry, 53: 1051-1057, 1996. 5. Harder. S. and Reitbrock, S. Concentration-effect relationship of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and prediction of psychotropic effects after smoking marijuana. International Journal of Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics, 35(4): 155-159, 1997. 6. Jones, R.T. et al. Clinical relevance of cannabis tolerance and dependence. Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 21 (Suppl 1): 143-152,1981. 7. Kandel, D.B. Stages in adolescent involvement with drugs. Science, 190:912-914, 1975. 8. Liguori, A.; Gatto, C. P.; and Robinson, J. H. Effects of marijuana on equilibrium. psychomotor performance, and simulated driving. Behavioral Pharmacology, 9:599-609, 1998. 9. National Association of State Alcohol and Drug Abuse Directors, Inc.. State Resources and Services Related to Alcohol and Other Drug Problems for Fiscal Year 1995: An Analysis of State Alcohol and Drug Abuse Profile Data, July 1997. 10. National Institute on Drug Abuse. National Survey Results on Drug Use from The Monitoring The Future Study, 1975-1997, Volume I/Secondary School Students. NIH Publication No. 98-4345. Printed 1998. 11. Pope, H. G. and Yurgelun-Todd, D. The Residual Cognitive Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use in College Students. Journal of the American Medical Association, Vol 275, No. 7, February 21, 1996. 12. Rodriguez de Fonseca, F.; Carrera, M. R. A.; Navarro, M.; Koob, G. F.; and Weiss, F. Activation of Corticotropin-Releasing Factor in the Limbic System During Cannabinoid Withdrawal. Science, Vol. 276, June 27, 1997. 13. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Sciences. Preliminary Results From the 1996 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse. DHHS No. (SMA) 97-3149. Rockville, MD: SAMHSA, July 1997. 14. University of Michigan. News and Information Services. Drug use among American teens shows signs of leveling after a long rise. December 18, 1997. 15. Wu, T. C.; Tashkin, D. P.; Djahed, B.; and Rose, J.E. Pulmonary hazards of smoking marijuana as compared with tobacco. New England Journal of Medicine, 318: 347-351, 1988. Back to the Top of the Page This page has been accessed 6597535 times since 1/8/1999. NIH Publication No. 04-4037 Printed 1995; Revised November, 1998; Reprinted April, 2001; Revised March, 2003, Revised September, 2004 For more information on marijuana and other drugs, contact: National Clearinghouse on Alcohol and Drug Information P.O. Box 2345 Rockville, MD 20847 1-800-729-6686 TDD 1-800-487-4899 |
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| Author: | Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:25 am ] |
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Didymus wrote: Actually, Cola, that web site is nothing but pro-pot propoganda and is not reliable.
yes, its coming from a website called "Pot-for-the-people".com[/sarcasm] its the DPA, Didymus. |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:48 pm ] |
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Well, having a three-letter acronym doesn't mean that they won't use "propaganda" tactics. I don't really know anything about this DPA (and I don't know if Didymus does). So I'm not sure how that's supposed to give greater credibility to those statements. I'm not saying they're wrong; I just don't see how saying "But it's the DPA!" is supposed to make us think otherwise. Though, frankly, I'm tired of the word "propaganda" bandied about casually to refer to any statements used to defend a cause, even when the cause being defended is questionable. I remember arguing with one anti-gambling nut (I think it's perfectly fine and understandable to be anti-gambling, but this guy was like the Fred Phelps of gambling), and virtually any point I could bring up was dismissed as "propaganda" -- including sound mathematical principles that are well understood and widely applied outside gambling. It was infuriating, to say the least. No matter what BS spewed from his mouth, or his keyboard, it wasn't propaganda; no matter what I said in response, it was. How convenient. - Kef |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:26 pm ] |
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Cola, would you mind sending us a link on where you found your information. I can say, from first hand experience, that marijuana is not a harmless drug. I have seen people change because of it. Their entire personalities become different. Sometimes they will become lazy, but others become agressive, and quick to fight. And I know friends that smoke marijuana before they ever had an alcoholic drink. And now they say that marijuana doesn't give them the "Buzz" that they used to have, so they try other things, such as Oxycotin. A few of my friends even wanted to try Acid. So are you going to tell me now that it's harmless? |
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| Author: | Marshmallow Roast [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:03 pm ] |
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Pot, used medicinally, may relieve more pain than weaker drugs, but I'd say it's worth a little bit of extra pain to avoid a drug that can potentially harm you greatly. Used non-medicinally, it's just stupid. Why anyone would want to take a substance into their body that can harm them so much, I have no clue. Even if it only does a little bit at first, is it really worth it? |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:14 pm ] |
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I viewed this thread as "SHould marijuana be made legal for medicinal uses" - I didn't even know there was a debate as to whetehr it should be used for "recreation". I'm very much against the use of marijuana recreationally, since, when in the wrong hands, and even in the right hands, can be dangerous and cause all sorts of problems in the life of the suer and the lives of the friends and family of the user. What we don't need is more marijuana addicts. However, medicinally, as I said before, I'm OK with. Current maijuana addicts will find a way to get the drug whether or not it's legal for medical use - they get it now, right? - and obviously, mairjuana wouldn't be prescribed for just anythign, the patient would need to be in serious pain for it to be prescribed. |
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