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Author:  What's Her Face [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:50 am ]
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War on terror, part Double Deuce.....

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Up to 21 people have been arrested in London for an apparent plot to detenate bombs on ten trans-Atlantic flights. If it's true, then up to two thousand people owe the London Met Police their lives.

Author:  Code J [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:36 pm ]
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Wow. This is pretty big. No more bringing water with you? Ugh. Oh well. I guess it's all for the better, but this is going to make flying a whole lot more inconvient.
I would like to know what other countries besides the US and UK are doing about this... People from other countries, tell what your countries new policies are.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:48 pm ]
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Definitely great news. Hats off to the London police... I wonder how they get this information?

Author:  Didymus [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:00 pm ]
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HA HAA! Take that, Stupid Terrorists!

Author:  iKipapa [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:35 pm ]
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Article wrote:
All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all items they are carrying x-ray screened. Laptop computers, mobile phones and iPods are among the items banned from being carried on board.


HUH?! Wait, what?!

Um, hats off to London Police, but...I want my iPod on the plane!
:p
NEVERMIND: I asked my Daddyio. He cleared it up for me.

Author:  StrongRad [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:50 pm ]
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Great, you can't take a bottle of water on board now.
I can see it now.
Personally, I think people are over-reacting, just a bit..

NEXT SUMMER: STEVEN SEGAL IN "Evian on a Plane"

Everyday, the terrorists win a little more....

Author:  racerx_is_alive [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:03 pm ]
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This specific plot was about a bomb that could be constructed on the plane using seeming innocuous parts. Liquid explosives were one part, perhaps using a couple of types of liquid that only become hazardous when mixed. The second part were the detonators, which looked like ordinary electrical devices, such as cell phones, etc.

This is why that banned those kinds of things, and only from england.

The US has slightly different restrictions than the UK.

UK: No carry-ons PERIOD. Everything must be checked.
US: No liquids or gels in carry-ons, but carry-ons are okay still.

I'm sure these will be relaxed eventually, but for now I suppose the risk is still too high.

Author:  IantheGecko [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:18 pm ]
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Great, now I'm gonna have to check my bag tomorrow ON TOP OF the longer security lines. Arrgh.

Oh well, as long as I can have my spiking glue...

Author:  ChickenLeg [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:56 pm ]
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As I said on my blog, "Silly terrorists. Attacks are for kids."

Still doesn't make sense, though.

Anyway, I'm not the airplane type, unless we're talking about the movie Airplane!, so I didn't even hear about this until an hour ago. But it's good to hear that we're safe for another day.

Author:  firemarc924 [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:  oh, about England

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/ap_ ... error_plot

I guess England was prepared. What are youre thoughts?

Author:  Chekt [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:55 pm ]
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Did this happen today? (August 10th)

Author:  Didymus [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:10 pm ]
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What's Her Face already started a topic about this.

MERGINATE, PLEASE.


*ramrod edit : I merged two topics together, thank you*

Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:30 pm ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
Definitely great news. Hats off to the London police... I wonder how they get this information?
Ever heard of MI-5?

Serious hats off to the London Met Police. They couldn't get Jack the Ripper, but they sure got these guys.

Author:  Alexander [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:37 pm ]
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This is very grand news.

The defence of England doing what they should be doing: defending.

While some might feel that they may be a bit too safe, I personally feel it's alright to do.

After all, I'd rather have my laptop be kept away then risk death. And when you really look at it, I would rather have the inconvience of going through security then risk my life.

To the police of England, thank you.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:37 pm ]
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Ever heard of MI-5?


Well yes, obviously this plot was detected through intelligence organizations.

What I'm wondering is exactly how. Phone tap? Interrogation of captured terrorist? Intercepted e-mail?

Also, how scary is it that these men who were arrested are legal citizens of England, born and raised? These aren't people who flew in from the Middle East.

Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:01 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
What I'm wondering is exactly how. Phone tap? Interrogation of captured terrorist? Intercepted e-mail?
It was probably the same way we do it. The difference is that the Brits actually do something about it instead of just changing colors every so often.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:03 am ]
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It was probably the same way we do it. The difference is that the Brits actually do something about it instead of just changing colors every so often.


Pretty impressive how changing colors has prevented a terrorist attack on American soil for the past 5 years.

Author:  Alexander [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:03 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
Also, how scary is it that these men who were arrested are legal citizens of England, born and raised? These aren't people who flew in from the Middle East.


I'm not surprised.

A terrorist is a terrorist. No matter where they come from.

As Didymus has stated here before, "They want to cause harm because they have little respect for life."

Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:08 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
Pretty impressive how changing colors has prevented a terrorist attack on American soil for the past 5 years.
Whoop-de-doo, 5 years. If we make it to ten, I will be impressed.

Author:  ramrod [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:17 am ]
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What's scary for me is that my brother is in London right now was was planning on heading back in a few days. This really scared him and his wife, as well as my family.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:21 am ]
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Whoop-de-doo, 5 years. If we make it to ten, I will be impressed.


You know, for someone so impressed with British Intelligence, you seem hard to please.

When were the London train bombings again? 5 years ago? 10?

Your attitude sure is cynical.

Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:34 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
You know, for someone so impressed with British Intelligence, you seem hard to please.

When were the London train bombings again? 5 years ago? 10?
That was there first one in a long while. Yeah a real long time ago. The last time any part of England was bombed was during WW2.

lahi wrote:
Your attitude sure is cynical.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:37 am ]
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That was there first one in a long while. Yeah a real long time ago. The last time any part of England was bombed was during WW2.


And September 11th was the ONLY time a part of mainland American has been bombed. Ever.

Why do you feel the Brits are so superior again?

Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:47 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
And September 11th was the ONLY time a part of mainland American has been bombed. Ever.
You have a bad memory. I think you forgot the 1993 WTC Bombing, 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, and the 1996 Olympic Park bombing. All of those were bombings on American soil.

Author:  Sui [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:51 am ]
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What stands out to me in the article that hasn't already been touched upon is how all liquids are banned except for milk for babies, which has to be "tasted by an accompanying passenger". Policies like that aren't well thought out at all; why can't they grant that condition to other drinks? There's a greater need for circumventing the rule in that case, but if there's a way to get around it for one drink, it should be permissible to apply it to something equally dangerous but equally able to be tested.

Author:  Code J [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:56 am ]
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Beyond the Grave wrote:
lahimatoa wrote:
And September 11th was the ONLY time a part of mainland American has been bombed. Ever.
You have a bad memory. I think you forgot the 1993 WTC Bombing, 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, and the 1996 Olympic Park bombing. All of those were bombings on American soil.


Not to mention that September 11th had no bombs involved.

Author:  StrongRad [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:26 am ]
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Code J wrote:
Beyond the Grave wrote:
lahimatoa wrote:
And September 11th was the ONLY time a part of mainland American has been bombed. Ever.
You have a bad memory. I think you forgot the 1993 WTC Bombing, 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, and the 1996 Olympic Park bombing. All of those were bombings on American soil.

The OKC and Olympic Park bombings were perpetrated by Americans (OKC was committed by a decorated war veteran). International intelligence efforts wouldn't have stopped those.

Anyways, though, the '93 bombing of WTC was because American "homeland security" wasn't up to snuff then. We didn't have to be. We were just getting over our little "victory" over the Soviets. Our death was going to come on an ICBM over the North Pole, not Ahmed in a truck packed with explosives.

Author:  What's Her Face [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:12 am ]
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Update: I heard on the radio that two of the co-conspirators were captured by Pakistani authorities, and provided them with info on a plot to detonate liquid explosives. I hear that was their biggest tip-off.

Says so here, too.

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Also, how scary is it that these men who were arrested are legal citizens of England, born and raised? These aren't people who flew in from the Middle East.


Isn't it scary? You know, it seems pretty weird to me that the UK has already produced six suicide bombers, and the US hasn't produced any yet. (Any that I'm aware of, anyway.....) Dunno, just strikes me as odd.

Beyond the Grave wrote:
That was there first one in a long while. Yeah a real long time ago. The last time any part of England was bombed was during WW2.


As much as I hate to mention the IRA and PIRA, I'll have to mention the IRA and PIRA. In fact, by a bizarrely macabre coincidence, one of their hits was the World Trade Centre in London.

So Lord knows that MI5 were able to hone their anti-terrorism prowess by running after the 'Ra. Um.... yay....?

Author:  lahimatoa [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:13 pm ]
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BTG wrote:
You have a bad memory. I think you forgot the 1993 WTC Bombing, 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, and the 1996 Olympic Park bombing. All of those were bombings on American soil.


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As much as I hate to mention the IRA and PIRA, I'll have to mention the IRA and PIRA. In fact, by a bizarrely macabre coincidence, one of their hits was the World Trade Centre in London.


Looks like we both have bad memories, BTG. Are you going to defend yourself here or in the thread I started yesterday? I maintain the United States is doing a fine job of protecting us from terrorist attacks and has a success rate comparable to the UK.

Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:22 pm ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
Are you going to defend yourself here or in the thread I started yesterday?
No. I am going to let you soil my name. Why? Because I don't care.

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