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 Post subject: "D.O.A.P. (Death of a President)"
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:38 am 
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One of the most controversial films screened at this year's Toronto International Film Festival was "Death of a President", a fictional documentary about the assassination of President Bush, then the state of America. The film uses archive footage, actors and computer effects to portray the president's assassination.

While I must give credit for Gabriel Range's...creativity, I'm disturbed as to what agenda he's pushing, if any. Some people may get "ideas" from watching this. And you know how the entertainment media influence people into committing acts of violence.

I won't be surprised if the terror threat level stays at Red for a while...

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Sounds interesting. I would not watch it because I dislike the guy. I just wanna see what type of national panic it would bring nowadays.


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I won't be surprised if the terror threat level stays at Red for a while...


Just because of some docu-drama? If Michael Moore hasn't succeeded in creating Bush-killers out of his audience, I doubt anyone else will.

Bah, it's all hype. I'm pretty sure that if anyone does kill Bush, they've already had that idea looooong before there was any talk of this thing.


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WHF makes a good point, but in addition to that, I still stand by the theory that the media has very little, if anything, to do with making people act out violently. If the media DID make people act violently, then how come nearly all of us never do?

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As I understand it, this movie doesn't really make a post-assassination USA look like a good place. If that's the case, then I don't really think it's a "make someone do something incredibly stupid" movie.

Now, if it were to show post assassination US as a place where people were all happy, cancer was cured, gas was $.93/gallon, 9/11 was reversed, and billionaires were handing out a couple of hundred dollar bills to every person they bumped into on the street, then I would see it as encouraging the stupidest act imaginable.

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As I understand it, this movie doesn't really make a post-assassination USA look like a good place. If that's the case, then I don't really think it's a "make someone do something incredibly stupid" movie.


[Devil's advocate]Though it might encourage jihadis who want America to turn out that way.[/Devil's advocate]

But yeah, I agree, nothing's likely to happen because of this film. And I'm with PMG too - I don't believe the hype about violent media.


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IantheGecko wrote:
I won't be surprised if the terror threat level stays at Red for a while...


Terror threat? Just because some dude wants W dead? Heck, I want him dead. And maybe if I were more creatively inclined, and had the funding, I'd make a film about it too.

Just because someone wants him dead, that doesn't mean they'll actually do it.

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Heck, I want him dead.


[Generic post jumping on you because you made an extremist comment in this forum, which is generally a level-headed place.]

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This forum is a level-headed place, where we are free to express our opinions. I'm sure I've mentioned my dislike for W in other posts in the past. And, anyway, I think my post was level-headed. If one of the other mods thinks otherwise, they're free to remove it.

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ModestlyHotGirl wrote:
This forum is a level-headed place, where we are free to express our opinions. I'm sure I've mentioned my dislike for W in other posts in the past. And, anyway, I think my post was level-headed. If one of the other mods thinks otherwise, they're free to remove it.


Truthfully, Hillary, I was a little shocked by the "Heck, I want him dead" post.

I'm not going to remove it, but I think wanting him dead is a bit extreme. Wanting him out of office is one thing, but wanting him dead seems a bit much.

Of course, I completely disagree with either of those, but I'm not going to tell you to not "TELL WHAT U THINK!".

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Honestly Hil, I too was shocked. I mean, I hate W as much as the next guy (that is, if Lahi isn't the next guy), but death is definately not the day. I'd rather see him get impeached instead. Besides, would you really want President Cheney?

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Honestly Hil, I too was shocked. I mean, I hate W as much as the next guy (that is, if Lahi isn't the next guy), but death is definately not the day. I'd rather see him get impeached instead. Besides, would you really want President Cheney?

We'd be better to keep Cheney as our "2nd in command".
If Cheney was to become pres and have something happen to him, the US would be a series of tubes. I kid you not.

Still, the point is moot to me. Bush, like Clinton, has done nothing worthy of impeachment. He's far from perfect, but he's not the devil that some would make him out to be.

Regardless, I still say that this movie is entertainment and nothing more. I don't see it as encouraging any action. I could be wrong, but I REALLY hope I'm not.

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Okay, so I was a little harsh. I was just upset at the idea that someone who hates W is automatically a terror threat. That's ridiculous.

I don't wish death on anyone, but I'll tell ya, if W died, I wouldn't mourn him.

Just my opinion.
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Of course you wouldn't. You're Canadian. ;)


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IantheGecko wrote:
Of course you wouldn't. You're Canadian. ;)
But our policies no only effect the US, but the whole world. From War to oil to free trade, there's barely any country that we haven't effected one way or another.

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StrongRad wrote:
ramrod wrote:
Honestly Hil, I too was shocked. I mean, I hate W as much as the next guy (that is, if Lahi isn't the next guy), but death is definately not the day. I'd rather see him get impeached instead. Besides, would you really want President Cheney?

We'd be better to keep Cheney as our "2nd in command".
If Cheney was to become pres and have something happen to him, the US would be a series of tubes. I kid you not.

Actually, I believe according to previous knowledge and the Wikipedia article that Ted Stevens would only become president after something happened to Dick Cheney (Vice)and J. Dennis Hastert (Speaker of the House of Representatives) But, yeah, I wouldn't want that guy for prez either.

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I personally can't say I'm not enamored of the idea. 'Cept they have to bump off Cheney too.

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ramrod wrote:
IantheGecko wrote:
Of course you wouldn't. You're Canadian. ;)
But our policies no only effect the US, but the whole world. From War to oil to free trade, there's barely any country that we haven't effected one way or another.


But have we affected them in good ways? Unless you mean what I'm hoping that you mean.

Even without Bush messing up the world's priorities, though, we'd be left with Cheney. As such, I agree with you that MHG would have a reason to care. In that particular case, a rather large reason.

"Halliburton's press release shows that Canada has somehow reduced their profits by 5%. WE SHALL BOMB THEM!"

OK, maybe that's a bit one-sided. Just exaggerating for the sake of a joke.

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I'm gonna see this. It's playing at the local indie movie theater, so I think I'm gonna check it out one of these days.


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I dont think this film will create another Lee Harvey Osborne, but it makes a point.

I forgot MHG's name was Hilary. I thought you were talking to Hilary Clinton or something, and that Hilary Clinton Wanted Bush dead. You could see how I could believe that. :p

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Lee Harvey Osborne

I knew one of those darn Osbournes would snap eventually and kill a president... Just goes to show how harmful rock music really is to society.

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Local paper here in Denver gave the movie a D+. Makes sense. This movie has a horrible premise.

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Local paper here in Denver gave the movie a D+. Makes sense. This movie has a horrible premise.


Well, it got pretty decent reviews elsewhere. I think it's a good concept and it's an innovative way of filming a movie.
Update: Most likely seeing it tomorrow.

Update Update: Rejected. The movie theater is setting it as rated "R." And I can't sneak into it at this theater, it's too small, unlike the mainstream theater.


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