Homestar Runner Wiki Forum

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Okay, so after I thought about it, I thought "Stop being a baby!" No more being more whinny than Strong Sad. So give your honest opinions. I'll face it. So a reminder... Red haired girl is Haihyou, Orange haired girl is Hairu, the guy is Kotaro, and the ball guy is Nokuta. I've got My characters starring in comics about the Nintendo DS (originally made to post on DS-Play, a Nintendo DS site) Kirby 4koma (originally made for Kirby Rainbow Resort) and several misc comics and drawings. Mainly about things I hate or find annoying. Check it out yo!
All of my Pokemon comics and other art can be found here http://pekopon.deviantart.com/

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For those (probably most) of you don't get this last one, it's just that I think these events are so disrespectful.

The rest will be in links.

Not what I ordered
Quotes are misleading

Rocket slime 4koma (read right to left)
Rocket Slime 4koma
More rocket slime 4koma

Kirby 4koma
Kirby Pinball 4koma
More Kirby pinball 4koma
Kirby 4koma
Mr. Frosty (Kirby 4koma)
Kirby superstar 4koma
Kirby 64 4koma

Other drawings
What you're lie really means
My fake pokemon
Pashoo use water gun

Go back to Gaia.

I'm sorry, I didn't find these really funny at all, and I was turned off by the anime-esque art style.

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I thought of it as the Bazooka Joe of Anime art style.

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I may sound dumb for asking, but what is Gaia?

"Gaia" is a word that means "Earth." As in, the Earth. It is also the planet in the Final Fantasy VII, among many other fantasy and sci-fi references.

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It just so happens I have a webcomic...
http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10852

Well yeah, I know what the word means, but when he said "go back to Gaia" I'm assuming he's talking about a place. And I don't mean the planet.
Oh well. I guess the people here watch all the homestar runner stuff, (as do I) so the drawing style doesn't suit them. At least they are original. (unlike 80% of the other stuff on Deviantart)

What's that?

A webcomic about video games isn't exactly original. Not very funny, not particularly well-drawn, and lacking in personality. It needs some work.

By Gaia, I meant the forum, Gaia, which contains copious amounts of people who engage in similar activities akin to this comic.

Look, Hairu, I'm sorry for being mean, I feel kind of sad. I do kind of like the shading in your comic, at least. It isn't because people here like american styled cartoons here better, by all means there is a large anime fanbase on this forum. It's just that there's a group of people here that pretty much run this place, and they're called "The Cool Kids on The Internet". They hate anime, and anything related to it, and have extremely high brow senses of humor.

I don't mean to discourage continuing your artwork, by all means keep going, there's a lot of people here who would like it.

:D

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Well at least someone said something nice. But I will say this.

First of all, it's not a web comic. I make them for fun, and post them on Deviantart for others to see.

2nd, they aren't all about video games.

3rd, For the exception above, why is everyone being such a creep? I mean it's fine to give your opinion and all, but if you had any etiquette, you'd try to be a bit more polite about it. I really am thinking the people on this forum aren't very nice, and it's a very bad atmosphere around here. I suppose my sense of humour is just a bit too subtle for people to enjoy here. To avoid further aggravation for me, I will delete all of the comic posted. It's very hurtful when several people gang up on you and bash the things you work so hard on.

Look, Hairu, don't do this, you're making me feel really bad.

You have to except that most of the internet is not like DeviantArt. It's not one big hugbox. People aren't always going to say your comic is great when it really sucks and needs improvement. Get used to it.

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This goes for all of you.

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If you're going to be a real artist, learn to take some criticism. Sheesh.

Also, I'd put them back up. All anyone was saying was that you needed improvement, no need to overreact.

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Hey, not everyone likes my drawings, but I still draw, and show them to people. Ignore the negative parts of what they say, but still use their advice.

It is better when people are polite, but when they're not, don't take it to heart.

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My motto: Life is good, life is bad, just keep going.

From what I've read, nobody is being "hurtful" or a "creep" with their comments. It is simply a range of opinions that people were bound to give you about your comic, regardless of whether or not they were posted here.

Personally, while I didn't read all of the comics, I thought that the art style was okay. You may want to get rid of the MS Paint aliasing though, pixelated edges aren't always great.

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Don't feel bad Duecex2. I know to accept criticism, but when 100% of the people don't like them, I feel it sort of pointless to keep them up for people to pick on. I admit I may be acting a bit childish, but these characters are very important to me. Also, I don't have any other drawing program, and paint is easy to use.

I've always liked drawing, and my styles kept changing and improving. At first as a very young kid, all I could draw was Pikachu, and I still wasn't very good at it. I eventually made the comic story called Pichu's Escape. Though the drawings were terrible, it has a special place in my heart, and is still the art thing I am the most proud of.

For the longest time, I felt discouraged since I had never made anything as good as Pichu's Escape. Later in life, I started making "Pichu's Escape Remastered" on the computer. (in MSPaint) It was a remastered version of the comic with improved visuals, and with some panels completely different from the original. While I never finished it, it is still by far one of my best works.

Several Short lived comic series I made passed by such as the very long Kirby comic Story I made, (my worst work ever) Ben's World, (the most embarrassing series to re-read) and the unfinished Pichu's Escape 2 "Return to the Pichu Prison" Which starred my very first original character that I really liked, "Abduulzwoua the Pichu Assassin" (I pronounced it Ab-Duels-whoa) Ben's world's characters were based off of my friends from school. I renamed myself Ben for the series (my real name is Brian (not Brianrietta or Brian Sue))

After that I went through a long phase of not drawing. I decided to take an animation class in Grade 11. It was during the time in this class that Haihyou, Kotaro, Nokuta, and Hairu were born. They are my pride and joy, and they are now used whenever I get a chance to use them. They all went through several design and name changes. (except Hairu whose design and name have never changed.) Eventually they became what they are today. Due to these characters, I was the highest scoring grade in the class with 98%, and my teacher liked Hairu the best out of all of the characters in the class. It was the best grade I had ever gotten in any course, and it had a real feeling of closure about it, knowing that I had made the characters I had been looking for for my whole life.

So these characters are my pride and joy. And with my touretts syndrome thrown into the mix, I get very angry when people bash them. I think that I might be able to accept the criticism a bit better if not for the over active touretts and all the pride I have in them, but I just can't handle it too well. I think that it's best for me if I keep them down. Don't anybody feel bad about it though, it's my own problem for not being able to take the heat.

And it's not just deviantart that likes them. every forum I've been too so far has enjoyed them. (and I've been to quite a few)

GB2/Hugbox

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Okay...?

Just put the comics back up; not everyone here hates your comic, and half of us didn't even get a chance to read it. You don't have to post your entire artist story to get us to understand that you admire your characters dearly.

Oh, and check out The GIMP, a free Photoshop-esque program that can be considered much more advanced than MS Paint, albeit harder to learn/master.


Also, if true, I'm sorry that you have Tourette's Syndrome.

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Weeeelllll..... Oh all right fine. I'll put em back up. But this time I'm gonna face it! Nothing you say will get me! I admit that this was a first, so I better get used to it! Don't hold back. Your total honest opinions. This will be a good learning experience for me. If you think it's good or okay, that's fine. If you think it's no good, that's fine too. So here I go. *goes and edits top post*

Oh, and by the way, I really do have tourettes syndrome, and there's nothing to apologize about. It just happened that way. Also, The Gimp is very complicated, and when I finally do get a picture done, it never quite has the same charm it has in the Pixely MSpaint. I have a hard enough time getting myself to make a comic in paint, let alone trying to make one in gimp. I think I'll just stick with good ol paint.

I didn't find them funny or enjoyable. =[

^eh, these two were decent, the rest of them...not so much.

Also: You should try actually drawing comics and scanning them in (if you have a scanner), instead of using MSpaint. Looks a lot better that way, IMO. Plus you can clean up lines, add color and word ballons, etc. in the GIMP, which is easier then doing it by hand. GIMP's not so hard if you just stick with it.

In conclusion,

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That's the spirit. The willingness to listen to criticism, no matter how hard, is the sign of a serious artist; someone who only listens to what they want to hear will never improve. If you really care about what you do (and it sounds like you do) then you'll take it all in stride and work harder to improve.
I'd start by fleshing out your characters more. I understand that they are very personal to you, but to an outside reader they seem pretty one-dimensional. Give them personality; a reader won't be drawn in unless they care about the characters.

Yeah, my characters have no established personality. Though Nokuta has recently started to get one. He is the type of guy who will do mean things to you for fun, and insult people directly because he doesn't care. While this hasn't been in many of my comics, it's been in several of my drawings. I just haven't gotten around to using Nokuta's new self. I should really try harder.

Hairu used to have a very hyper personality, but that has since been abandoned. It might end up coming back some day. The characters having no personality is something that I've actually been trying to work on. I've been wanting Haihyou to be the sort of character who has it together and try to make sense of what's going on. I guess if you wanted to use a homestar character for an example, Strong Sad would best suit what I'm aiming for with Haihyou. I did start to show this personality in a comic, but I never posted it anywhere.

My brand new guy, Aoi, (who I just made up today) already has a prepared personality. He's the kind of guy who's just sort of strange and unpredictable. Though not unpredictable in a way that he's eccentric, just in the way that he sort of thinks differently than the others. He's Haihyou's younger brother, which is so far the only connection in the way of families. I made him Haihyou's brother in hopes of it becoming the source of Haihyou's new personality. She'd always be trying to make sense of what the heck he's doing. I've been wanting to try and figure out a reason why the characters are always at each other's houses. They're just sort of always together, sort of like in Peanuts. (though this wasn't meant to be like peanuts that way) Charlie Brown just always seems to be hanging out with one of the other characters.

The only character I have no idea what to do with is Kotaro. He's probably the most generic out of all of them. He's just sort of there when I've used the girls too often. In reality, he's my least favourite out of all 5 characters. I've also been meaning to try and make backgrounds. My backgrounds are always flat colours. The truth is, that I can draw my characters, but not much else. There's rarely any other objects around. Due to my characters' bizarre anatomy, it's hard to draw them in all that many different poses.

Oh, and I actually do prefer drawing with a pencil.

Also, here's a little set I made out of plasticine a while ago. The camera didn't pick up the colours very well. (notice how the characters are as tall as the trees?) :p

Eesh, bright. BRIIIGHT colors.

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I think you're on the right track. Some tweaking could be used here and there, but other than that, it's pretty good, to start out.

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My motto: Life is good, life is bad, just keep going.

Okay, wow. I read this thread and I'm...actually appalled by what a few of you said. You all talk about how Hairu should be able to take criticism and yet none of you actually offer true constructive criticism. Saying "Go back to Gaia" or "It's not funny and I didn't like it" or "GB2Hugbox" will not help ANYONE improve. You all complain about DeviantART and yet, from what I see, many of you have no better conception of artistry or criticism than most Deviants. The Arts and Crafts forum is a place to share what we've made, which is exactly what Hairu did. To immediately reply with "go back to hugbox" completely undermines the hospitality of this forum. Personally, I feel as though many of us could stand to be a little less judgmental and elitist. You can be supportive and help people improve without becoming a hugbox. It's all about learning how to give the right kind of criticism, and the right kind of criticism does not include mounting a high horse and behaving this rudely.

Hokay, put in my two cents. Carry on.

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Silly me, to hope that the cool kids of the internet would condescend to grace me with their infinite wisdom and a rational response.

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Though I really appreciate the back up, and I did also notice that not many people actually gave any advice, this has all sort of gotten my inner flame ignited. I feel the need to improve, which is something I haven't felt since I made all of the characters' final designs. I feel more skeptical about my drawings. I feel the need to improve the characters' personality. I feel like I need more detail. This has actually been quite an eye opening experience. While I may have disliked you all at first, (to be perfectly honest) I must now deeply thank each and everyone of you for giving me the inspiration I needed to improve. You guys rock. I guess I've just felt no need to work any harder since I just got compliments on other forums and deviantart. I will gladly hear any actually advice people offer. However, I will say right now that I have no intention to learn how to draw humans, since I have no need to. Perhaps if people could give me some ideas for a Male hair style, that would be good. The only ways to tell my characters' genders apart are by hair and clothing, and finding different Male hair styles is tricky.