Super Smash Bros. Brawl Discussion

gino · **Joined:** Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:40 pm **Posts:** 802

Then we can start planing our tournament! :mrgreen:

StrongRad · **Posted:** Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:43 pm

Why is Marth so incredibly hard to beat in classic mode, but such a complete wimp when I try to use him?

Also, why are the characters I hated using so much better than my old favorites?

THEY CHANGED SOMETHING!!! GRAH!!!

This adventure mode is pretty fun.

kerrek_slaya · **Posted:** Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:50 pm

Acekirby wrote:

At this rate, Jon and I are gonna have to fight the entire Fanstuff Forum by ourselves. =/

kerrek_slaya wrote:

Shadow Scythe beat me. I blame lag.

I know you said not to, but I'm going to whine about it....after about an hour of starting and stopping because it came to complete standstills and disconnected us 4 (four) times. Eventually, we managed to slog through three matches, and he exploited the lag enough to beat me in two of them (he won first, then me, then him, all on battlefield...he apparently turned items off for the last one too.)

I'm not BITTER.

Uh...if your lag was THAT bad, weren't you supposed to disconnect and tell about it here, so we could switch your opponent up?

I wanted to be able to finish with him..each match we would get to play for a little longer before it disconnected...and whenever it disconnected, I was ALWAYS WINNING. I wanted to finish the matches so badly...and after the lag caused me to pwn myself in the first match, I mean, the rules say it was too late to quit then, so I had to keep going....he got lucky and won. I'm sorry if I'm like, super-pissy about it, but I 'bout destroyed him like four times.

And what would happen if I got a different opponent? Someone else has to deal with him, or what? The guy who got his opponent taken away might be ticked, too.

EDIT: Holy crap, we have an auto-censor now?!? It changed "super [censored]" to "super tick" for some reason.

Edit by Ju: Then how does it make any sense to try to bypass it. We have the censor for a reason?

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

I'm disappointed at the lack of ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND in the soundtrack.

Duecex2 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:39 pm

got places to go got to follow my rainbow

Capt. Ido Nos · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:14 am

Can't stick around, have to keep movin' on

DS_Kid · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:27 am

Guess what lies ahead? Only one way to find out!

Whew, nostalgia overload.

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

I ain't gonna let it get to me, I'm just gonna creep,
Down in Pumpkin Hill I gots to find my lost piece.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:58 am

StrongRad wrote:

Why is Marth so incredibly hard to beat in classic mode, but such a complete wimp when I try to use him?

Marth's kind of weird to use starting out. I had a lot of trouble with him in Melee, but he seems better this time around.

StrongRad wrote:

Also, why are the characters I hated using so much better than my old favorites?

They nerfed some people and made some people stronger. Peach was totally nerfed. Mario sucks now. Kirby and Pikachu are better.

StrongRad wrote:

THEY CHANGED SOMETHING!!! GRAH!!!

They changed a lot of things. The game mechanics are tough to get used to at first.

StrongRad · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:06 am

Acekirby wrote:

StrongRad wrote:

Also, why are the characters I hated using so much better than my old favorites?

They nerfed some people and made some people stronger. Peach was totally nerfed. Mario sucks now. Kirby and Pikachu are better.

Samus is a prime example of what I was talking about. I loved Samus in Melee (probably my favorite), but now she's not that great (also, how does Zero-Suit Samus not fall over? You know what I'm talking about... More like Silicone-Suit Samus).
Pikachu was my second favorite, so I like that they improved him.
Kirby was another example of what I was talking about. I HATED Kirby on Melee, but I can totally clean house with him now.
Also, did they nerf Mario? I actually seem to be doing better with him now.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:09 am

Yeah, Power Suit Samus got a little nerfed. ZS Samus is pretty good, though. And I too love the fact that Kirby is better in Brawl. It made me sad to see him so bad in Melee, when he should be awesome.

Mario got nerfed if you played a lot as him and got used to the mechanics. Also, if you play as Luigi a lot (like me), you get used to his controls, which are somewhat similar. Mario's addition of the Fludd and movement of the Mario Tornado gimped his moveset a little (I keep trying for Tornado and keep getting Fludd >=( ). Coincidentally, Mario is my Disaster Master (most losses in Brawls). I've played 4 matches with him and lost 3.

StrongRad wrote:

(also, how does Zero-Suit Samus not fall over? You know what I'm talking about... More like Silicone-Suit Samus).

Lol. Yep, she sure is...curvy.

Joshua · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:28 am

I have no idea what possessed Sakurai to make Pikachu's Down+B attack stronger. I mean, jeez, that attack did not need more power.

Aayugara · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:34 pm

Yeah, kinda saddens me how they weakened Samus so much.... she used to be my best character, with Kirby in second place, but now since they made Samus lamer and Kirby better Kirby took first. I'm glad they made Kirby cooler and all, I actually kinda wanted to make him my best just so I could be all "OOOH! YOU GOT PWNED BY KIRBY! BOO-YAH, BIZZATCH!" But now I can't really do that anymore lol... But really though, why did they weaken Samus? She wasn't too fast, wasn't too strong...what the crap was the problem?

Joshua · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:22 pm

I'm not going back to update any old lists, but basically a certain member named Tommyspud disappeared a few days before the tourney started and hasn't shown up since. He's had long enough and now he's being replaced with another guy named JeRM.

JeRM - 1075-0433-1972

That's your new opponent, DS_Kid. Hopefully you two will be able to arrange a battle soon.

By the way, other than those two, we are still waiting on:
RUSTY vs. THEDENZEL
SCI-FI GREG vs. DINOSHAUR

And then we'll be able to begin Round 2, which typically go by much faster.

Beaums · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:19 am

Acekirby wrote:

StrongRad wrote:

(also, how does Zero-Suit Samus not fall over? You know what I'm talking about... More like Silicone-Suit Samus).

Lol. Yep, she sure is...curvy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWfyp70MvRg

Best cutscene of the whole Subspace Emissary! :mrgreen:

Nah, I'm joshing. But seriously, Zero Suit Samus is actually a pretty decent character. I would never main her, but I enjoyed playing as her in the SSE and she's worked pretty well for me in brawls. I also agree with the fact that Mario got duped in Brawl. I mean come on, F.L.U.D.D.?! Come on! Luigi definitely surpasses his older bro in Brawl. I've actually been maining Luigi for awhile now... I just hate how his green fireballs can only travel in a straight path...

And I'm sorry but Pikachu's increased excellence in Brawl just makes me even more annoyed with him. I'm sorry, but I just can't stand Pikachu in Smash Bros. He's such an easy character to spam with! X-(

Acekirby · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:41 am

Joshua wrote:

I have no idea what possessed Sakurai to make Pikachu's Down+B attack stronger. I mean, jeez, that attack did not need more power.

It also seems like the thunder doesn't start as far up from Pikachu anymore. So it isn't always stopped by a platform overhead.

Joshua · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:48 am

Acekirby wrote:

Joshua wrote:

I have no idea what possessed Sakurai to make Pikachu's Down+B attack stronger. I mean, jeez, that attack did not need more power.

It also seems like the thunder doesn't start as far up from Pikachu anymore. So it isn't always stopped by a platform overhead.

The main issue is that it has signifigantly less ending lag than it used to. So while in Melee you could spam it and maybe it'd catch someone offguard and annoy them with Pikachu's voice, now you can use it so quickly that it actually became a legitimate strategy that is hard and annoying to beat, expecially in a mess like the With Anyone free for alls.

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

every time

EDIT:

Wow photobucket haet large gifs

Acekirby · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:56 am

Obstacles on Mario Bros stage = Bumper x 1000

Joshua · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:09 am

Acekirby wrote:

Obstacles on Mario Bros stage = Bumper x 1000

On this forum I go to, I was playing in an online tournament with a Virtual Console game as the prize against almost two dozen people. Nothing was banned in it though, as everyone's still working out what works and we have separate "casual" and "tourney***" tournaments.

So the first plays out on battlefield, and I just narrowly lose thanks to a smelly final smash.

I counterpick Mario Bros., a serious 1-on-1 match there. It was the most hilarious and epic complete failure of a match ever.

DumDeDum · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:29 am

With everyone talking about characters who are buffed up/toned down, what's the general opinion about Ness? Better or worse since Melee?

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

He feels a bit stronger, I don't know.

But if you're playing him online and you get the slightest hint of lag, say goodbye to your recovery

Coleslaw · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:03 pm

Yesterday, my friend and I beat ALL event challenges. The last co-op one took us about an hour.

DumDeDum · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:15 pm

Hey, if anyone still cares about how I'm doing with Melee, I finally managed to get the Crazy Hand trophy today! Beating Adventure on Hard with no continues... it's incredibly dificult. I used Kirby, and it took a LOT of attempts. But today, I actually managed. WOOT!

Now I need three more Melee trophies until I have them all: Food (6/10 of the way there), Celebi (All I need to do do unlock Celebi is to get 5000 KOs. Around 27/50 of the way through doing that). and Diskun (All I need is Celebi Catcher...uh yeah).

Since I've done all the hard bits, I can finally stop asking for hints about Melee. Thanks, everyone who decided to help.

Capt. Ido Nos · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:04 pm

There's very little like playing Brawl for two hours after spending four days studying for an exam.

Yay college! Wootness.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:17 pm

DumDeDum wrote:

With everyone talking about characters who are buffed up/toned down, what's the general opinion about Ness? Better or worse since Melee?

I dunno. I almost always pick Lucas over Ness.

Joshua · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:38 pm

Acekirby wrote:

DumDeDum wrote:

With everyone talking about characters who are buffed up/toned down, what's the general opinion about Ness? Better or worse since Melee?

I dunno. I almost always pick Lucas over Ness.

He's definitely been largely improved from Melee (a la Kirby), but he's been largely overshadowed by Lucas, even though they play completely differently.

I have to admit that I'm also guilty of completely ignoring Ness for the new kid.

The Cup of Coffee · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:36 pm

I still feel that there should be a Mario move where he.......swings his arms from side to side.

Come on it's time to go do the Mario.......that move would pwn.

StrongRad · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:38 pm

Dude, that Nintendogs helper trophy is EVIL.
I was playing in Classic mode last night and one of the computer characters got ahold of it.

Evil has never been so unbelievably adorable.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:28 am

Nintendogs is the most useless Assist trophy ever.

Isaac is one of the most awesome.

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