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Is the K.O.T. really Marizpan's Dad
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Author:  TheNintenGenius [ Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:02 am ]
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You can't really say for sure if they ARE related and you can't really say for sure if they're NOT, that's the thing. I don't think TBC have brought it up ever since the beginning (when they were trying to flesh out who the characters were anyway) because, to be honest, there's not very many directions that could go in, or at least directions that wouldn't be retreading some tired old sitcom plot.
Author:  The Experimental Film [ Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:04 pm ]
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ThatGoblin wrote:
That's pretty cool. TRIVIA TIME!!!


Question 1: How many girlfriends does Pom Pom have?

Question 2: How times better is Homestar Runner from the best person in the world?

Question 3: "Marzi" Can be found swimming with dolphins where?


1. 27
2. 2-3 times
3. the swampy marsh
Author:  Bad Graphics Ghost [ Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:17 pm ]
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http://members.shaw.ca/kevinscott/Homestar/page6.html

Here's an interview that proves that she's not his daughter.

Quote:
Matt: ...originally he was conceived as being Marzipan’s
dad, because I made him up, and again it was in the early days.
He’s one of the characters that we’ve kind of, by virtue of giving
him this role as the least popular character within the cartoon,
not in terms of actual popular opinion, because he’s actually
gaining much more popularity these days...
Author:  thefreakyblueman [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:00 am ]
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Also, remember in the sbemail #100, flashback? In that, there was no King of Town, but there was a Prince of Town. Now, think back-- Marzipan was there too! And, she wasn't young, either!

So, this leaves two possibilities:
1. She's not the King of Town's daughter
2. She was born when the Prince of Town was fairly young, like 14-13 (assuming he's around 20-30 in the sbemail)
Author:  Buz [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Ive decided to chime in.
When considering the age of :marzi: , it's instructive to consider the age of :hr: . They are probably within 5 years of each other. If the svelt, young PoT was old enough to make decisions affecting apparently minor :sb: and :hr: in Flashback, then it's possible he was old enough to be a parent. The "youth" of PoT was in contrast to the elderliness of :kot: , not the ages of the contestents.

Another age cue for :marzi: could be that though she lives on her own, we don't know where :hr: lives, but we do know that :sb: :sm: and :sad: live together, and judging by Routine and Other Days, remain jobless (i.e. live with parents). Supposing :marzi: and :sb: are within 5 years of each other as well, it's possible that :kot: is her dad. Of course, TBC could clarify it, but it's not that big of a deal either way.
Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:26 pm ]
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If you take into account that some princes don't become kings until their 30s or 40s it's very possible that the :kot: is father to :marzi:
Author:  porplemontage [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:30 pm ]
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AHHH! please, no more emoticons where words should be!!

sorry about that. i dont know what came over me. anyways, you guys can continue this conversation. i, umm... i think i need a time out.

oops and back on topic: I believe that the kot is marzipan's dad because the brothers chaps said so and never gave any real support that this isn't true. don't get me started on "but they dont look or seem alike!!" because i got three words for those people: the brothers strong.
Author:  TheNintenGenius [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ive decided to chime in.
Buz wrote:
When considering the age of :marzi: , it's instructive to consider the age of :hr: . They are probably within 5 years of each other. If the svelt, young PoT was old enough to make decisions affecting apparently minor :sb: and :hr: in Flashback, then it's possible he was old enough to be a parent. The "youth" of PoT was in contrast to the elderliness of :kot: , not the ages of the contestents.

Another age cue for :marzi: could be that though she lives on her own, we don't know where :hr: lives, but we do know that :sb: :sm: and :sad: live together, and judging by Routine and Other Days, remain jobless (i.e. live with parents). Supposing :marzi: and :sb: are within 5 years of each other as well, it's possible that :kot: is her dad. Of course, TBC could clarify it, but it's not that big of a deal either way.


Gaaaah, bad flashbacks to Highlights magazine. Please don't make me read any more Goofus and Gallant. I'LL BE GOOD
Author:  paxman356 [ Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:23 pm ]
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Image

http://www.homestarrunner.com/charactersold.html
All the proof you need.
Author:  Upsilon [ Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:27 pm ]
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goatman596 wrote:
Mostly because in Strong Bad's flashback, when the "Young, Svelt, Prince of Town." is present, Marzipan is an adult. I would majorly doubt that the KoT, who is established to be the former PoT, would have had Marzipan that long ago.


It's hardly worthwhile to apply human biology to a site like Homestar Runner.

Personally, I reckon that Marzipan is the King's daughter (hey, that'd make her a princess, wouldn't it?), simply because it says so on the Characters page. While I agree that we can't necessarily take everything it says as absolute truth (Coach Z not being an actual coach, for example), I think we might as well assume it to be true until we see any recent evidence to the contrary.
Author:  Buz [ Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Princess Marzipan
Upsilon wrote:
hey, that'd make her a princess, wouldn't it?

That may have been a factor for TBC... "Princess Marzipan" has a certain ring to it. You have to admit that her outfit is somewhat... princessy.
Author:  Rebochan [ Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:56 pm ]
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I'd say that since the chaps themselves have said they took the idea out, it has never appeared in any cartoons, and even the current character page no longer states this, it's safe to say that Marzipan is not the KOT's daughter (anymore).
Author:  porplemontage [ Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:13 pm ]
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Or maybe Marzipan's too ashamed to admit that the King of Town is her father because, you know, he's a loser and nobody likes him.
Author:  Buz [ Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Good point
porplemontage wrote:
Or maybe Marzipan's too ashamed to admit that the King of Town is her father because, you know, he's a loser and nobody likes him.

That's a good point! Maybe Marzipan petitioned TBC to have them change the FCUSA universe to make her independent from such a stick-in-the-mud. I mean, for as much as SB rips on the KoT, he doesn't treat Marzipan with the disrespect that would accompany her being a daughter of the O'Town family.

Oh! Maybe the King is Irish... the King O'Town! No insult intended to any real person from the Emerald Isle.
Author:  Mrs Commanderson [ Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:40 pm ]
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Sorry, as this post is a bit old, but..

Marzipan denies it.
Author:  Hysterical Woman [ Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Marzipan
Quote:
Q. It seems that more than a few people around town fancy you, how do you deal with all the attention?

A. I try to focus it inward, so as to strive toward self-enlightenment. That, and a lotta kicks to the crotch.


That explains Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7, when Bubs talks about the kick-in-the-crotch. I always thought that Strong Bad called Bubs pretending to be Marzipan and tricked him into kicking Coach Z in the crotch. Does this means that Marzipan told Bubs to kick Coach Z in the crotch? But Marzipan is an independent woman who can kick her crotches on her own. So she kicked Coach Z in the groin. But if she kicked him in the crotch, why does Bubs need to tell her Coach Z got kicked in the crotch? Or maybe she kicks her own crotch for some reason?

Or maybe I'm reading to much into this?

(also, the interviewer seems to be British)
Author:  Stinkobubsarman [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is the K.O.T. really Marizpan's Dad
It's probably not the truth, but I can see the resemblance- Their bodies are the same shape and neither of them have visible arms or legs. She probably gets her weird neck from her Mum (I'm from New Zealand, so I don't spell it like 'Mom'), who I presume died or left home long ago.
Author:  Great Jorb! [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:37 am ]
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Nah.
KOT is obviously not Marzipan's father.
Marzipan doesn't even LIKE the KOT.
They just said that in the old character page because they only started making Homestarrunner.com.
Peace,
-Great Jorb!
:coachz:
Author:  Waddle Dee [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Marzipan
As far as I'm concerned, Marzipan has no legs. So it would be impossible for Marzipan to do any crotch-kicking..

Oh, and Marzipan & The K.O.T. are not related. It was just an idea TBC was playing around with in the beginning of H*R.
Author:  Ugozima [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Marzipan
Waddle Dee wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Marzipan has no legs. So it would be impossible for Marzipan to do any crotch-kicking..

Oh, and Marzipan & The K.O.T. are not related. It was just an idea TBC was playing around with in the beginning of H*R.

Yeah.

The characters were not really developed. All that was developed was that Strong Bad was the antagonist and Homestar the protagonist.

Also, I think the way TBC were going to have it was a contest for every big toon. I mean, first three toons, contests. (Marshmallow's Last Stand, A Jumping Jack Contest, and Reddest Radish)
Author:  Key-sword-tar [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:30 pm ]
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Well, it is possible that they're related, for the main reason that, although she seems to hate being around him (as everybody does) they have intimate knowlege of each other, for example the KoT knowing about Marzy's surgery and her knowing his middle name. They have also been seen volantarily speaking with each other, like in pumpkin carvenival, when she was failing to recognise his Mario costume.
Another connection is that they are of the same 'species' (as in those with no/invisible arms, but also no visible legs).
Also, as was proven in 'highschool', SB's memory is 'like a doodle memory', so his depiction of the svelt young princeoT may not be reliable.
Author:  Omnisweater [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:14 am ]
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If you think about it, Marzipan and The King of Town actually do share quite a few physical traits, at least enough for them to plausibly be the same species. Behold:

Lack of visible arms and legs
Hair
Visible(ish) mouths
Pink skin (KOT's skin was seen in diorama...I guess he's completely covered in white fur)

So I think it's possible.
Author:  roameater825 [ Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:30 am ]
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Shopiom wrote:
Here's a link to that thing:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/charactersold.html


Yeah, it also says she likes horses, I think that was when the chaps didn't make Mazipan her personality she has today.
Author:  T3H_CH3K7_888 [ Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is the K.O.T. really Marizpan's Dad
TBC have stated that that was an idea that they scrapped earlier.
Author:  Neoxon312 [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:04 am ]
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I'm sure :kot: is :marzi: 's dad.
Author:  silent wulf [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:49 am ]
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I think you guys are putting to much thought into a cartoon, also I think the KOT used to be marzipan's dad.
Author:  Heimstern Läufer [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:47 am ]
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TBC have made it pretty clear that no, he's not Marzipan's dad; that's an old idea they abandoned. I really don't think there's any more to say about it than that.
Author:  DorianGray [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:05 am ]
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I think the way they interact in the answering machines is what cements it totally for me.
Author:  Homestarshie [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:40 pm ]
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Agreeing with DorianGrey. How else would Marzipan know that his middle name is Wad?
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