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Gemini was right. The R&P Board has torn this forum up. It turns the nicest user into a flaming jerk. Look at Didymus, everywhere else on here he is one of the best users, but get him onto R&P and he turns in to Pat Robertson. Same goes with a lot of users, myself included. It has caused nothing but trouble and it needs to go.

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I second this potion. It's not neccesary, and I don't think many people like it.

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I ALSO SECOND THIS POTION

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I agree. R&P really changes people and causes unnecessary arguments and flaming. I see nothing wrong with having organized talks about it, but some people are really passionate about these topics and are not going to be completely nice. These are peoples' two biggest personal beliefs. They're going to defend them, sometimes harshly.

I've never liked R&P, and I never thought it fit in here. I can say I'm among those who would not miss it if it was gone.

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I also agree. This is a light-hearted H*R forum, people who want to talk about religion & politics can join forums about those things.

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I'm surprised you guys all agree, I guess I don't look too closely at most of the threads there. I like it personally, but maybe I should take a longer look if what you all say is true.

I am liking that potion, though.

EDIT: After looking around a bit, I really don't see a problem with the board. Very rarely do grudges and arguments there transfer over to the rest of the forum - I've seen arguments there actually create closer friendships. It's not affecting the forum in any bad way, and it's not like you have to go in there, so I say keep it.

Honestly, I don't see any of our problems coming from R&P.
With some exceptions, most of the fights we have come from outside of that thread. Look at the recent dramas.
Rose- R&P
Clan rHrn- Not R&P
Alexander- Not R&P
SERIOUS Inc- Not R&P

Only 1/4 of our major dramas came from R&P. It's hardly the source of our problems.

If you all don't like R&P, don't go in there. R&P discussions do not equal flame wars. If they're moderated correctly (and people are mature, rational members) they are perfectly ok.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

EDIT: This was a simulpost SR.

I've always liked the R & P board specifically here. It's the only one I can find on the interweb that isn't loaded with angry flaming <people who don't agree with me, I won't be specific since it will probably offend someone> and where people can have normal discussions without anyone going OH BURN!!!. I don't see a lot of flaming jerks there (as for Didymus, other than that one comment everyone hated about Northern Ireland, I don't see how you could call him a jerk on there). Most of the 'jerky' people on there have been banned.

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Sree, it's sad, because Didymus can't moderate if he's distracted by his hypocriticality.

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I agree also, it kinda seems to me the decaying part of the forum where enemies are formed. It may be the home of the problems but that is where the members seem to start to not trust each other and that starts the major problems.

So I agree that it needs to go.

Then how am I still around?


As for avoiding it, R&P is like a Black Hole, everyone gets sucked into it eventually.

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And why is Didy still around? I hate to go on about this, but my freaking god, he's a whole 'nuther person in there.



shat brick

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2 things: Didymus is not a moderator in R&P
Didymus is not a hypocrite.

And I totally disagree that any of our current problems come from R&P. None of our recent dramas have had anything to do with that forum. I don't even think that mistrust or anything formed in there.

Also, any disagreements I've had in R&P stayed there.
WHF and I totally disagree in R&P, but we're totally friendly out of there. Sarge and I have also had nasty disagreements in there, but we still play nicely in Forum Games.

Rusty, if you have any more personal attacks on Didymus, please keep them to yourself.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

They may be personal attacks, but I'm trying to point out one of the problems. One of the many problems.

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The dissagreements still happen. They affect you and the other person in some kind of way. I know the place is meant for it, but there is always a large chance that something that grows in R&P will turn into something on the entire forum. There are many conflicts that aren't that notable that grew out of R&P.

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I agree. I also agree that it should be removed.

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Hmm... both sides have good arguments. However, its like Strong Rad says, if you don't want to be involved in arguments or whatever, don't go in, I mean, there's a warning on the link for that section. When you go in there, you need to understand that not all people have the same ideas and/or beliefs as you, and that you can't change everyone's opinion to yours.

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If you don't have the self control to avoid something that upsets you, it sounds to me like that's your problem.

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It doesn't suck everyone in. You can not go there if you don't want to.
It's not that hard.

Rusty, I don't care if you think they illustrate your point, stop with the personal attacks.

Disagreements in R&P CAN stay in R&P if people are mature enough to let them. If they're not mature enough, then maybe they aren't mature enough to be on the internet.

If arguments are the reason you all want to close R&P, why not close off-topic, too, since we get more arguments from there then we do from R&P.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

I second this motion.

Also this motion:

DANCE, Ninjadude, DANCE!

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I did. Listen to me, he is just one of the many examples. His case is just the easiest one to point out. I think we should get rid of it to get rid of all this conflict.

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This Serious Inc stuff originated with the Forum Awards, so let's get rid of them.
People started arguing over the Serious Inc stuff in Random Thoughts, so let's get rid of it, too.

There have been arguments in Off-Topic, so that's gonna go, too.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

I don't think getting rid of R&P will get rid of the conflicts, but it might help.

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Well put, I couldn't agree with you more. However, we can't prevent people everyone who isn't as you say, "mature" enough from getting in to that section of the forum. I say we come up with some rules for R&P that try to prevent people who can't handle other people's ideas from even setting...mouse cursor in R&P.

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What are you talking about? The people arguing about Serious Inc. were being...not so smart. In R&P, even the most level-headed person can become a total jerk.

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Listen, if you don't like it, don't go in. I don't see why that's so hard.

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This thread is proving my point. Even this disscussion about R&P is getting pretty heated. There is almost enough heat coming from this thread to cook steak.

*Dumps a bucket of water on everyone*

Chill, dudes.

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Ugh, exactly.

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Well, those people are being not smart either. If you're smart, you won't be a jerk in any forum.

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Um... getting rid of R&P? It just... Even though you probably could never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy on the forum, to make a Star Wars reference, if it was gone, it would feel like part of the forum had died.....

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

R&P's anger level makes them stupid.

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