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| Author: | DeathlyPallor [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:51 am ] |
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Same as above. Definitely cannot stand the tears in my beer music... What do you get when you play a country song backwards? |
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| Author: | DarkSideOfTheSchwartz [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:33 am ] |
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I'd say rap, but I can't, because my favorite song by the Beastie boys is intergalactic. So I guess I'll choose country. |
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| Author: | PieMax [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:36 am ] |
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I love music. I love to play and I love to listen. Even though rap is completely dumb, sometimes it's fun. Who doesn't love singing about women with large bums? |
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| Author: | Schmelen [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:37 am ] |
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Rap is not singing. |
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| Author: | PieMax [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:40 am ] |
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yeah it is. it's just... very minimal singing. and more... talking about pimpin' the hos. |
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| Author: | damik [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:34 pm ] |
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Bwahahahaha @ all you rap-hating foolz. Seriously, dudes, if you're gonna enforce your rap opinions on people, listen to more than just the Top 40 crap before you do
My least favourite genre would be country; but I'm not gonna totally condemn that either. |
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| Author: | topofsm [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:54 pm ] |
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damik wrote: Bwahahahaha @ all you rap-hating foolz. Seriously, dudes, if you're gonna enforce your rap opinions on people, listen to more than just the Top 40 crap before you do ![]() People here don't listen to the top 40 crap. People here listen to TMBG and other many underground bands. The top 100 on iTunes is 45% rap and 45% R&B. The rest is rock. That's my view of the iTunes top 100. damik wrote: My least favourite genre would be country; but I'm not gonna totally condemn that either.
I don't think anyone here is totally condemning their genres. For example, I like Lose Yourself by Eminem for it's cool riff and whatnot. It's not all techno and weird random electronic sounds like most other rap music. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:02 pm ] |
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topofsm wrote: People here listen to TMBG and other many underground bands. I'm sorry, but TMBG is not an "underground" band. Sure, they're not exactly mainstream anymore, but good luck finding someone that hasn't heard Particle Man or Istanbul. Quote: I don't think anyone here is totally condemning their genres. For example, I like Lose Yourself by Eminem for it's cool riff and whatnot. It's not all techno and weird random electronic sounds like most other rap music.
I think you are a very, very confused person. |
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| Author: | Marshmallow Roast [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:09 pm ] |
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I picked R&B. I could have picked country, but it isn't quite as boring as R&B. Rap, as much as I despise it, sometimes has some catchy beats. I don't much value it, though- it's the candy to rock music's wholesome Thanksgiving dinner. |
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| Author: | damik [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:10 pm ] |
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topofsm wrote: People here don't listen to the top 40 crap. PizzaTrophy wrote: I really don't like rap.
Like, I can tolerate Eminem, but anything heavier that rants about wanting to slap female-dogs and gardening tools is bad. ... the Top 40 crap in question, in fact. |
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| Author: | DESTROY US ALL! [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:19 pm ] |
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Marshmallow Roast wrote: ...quite as boring as R&B...
Say wha? R&B may be suffering in the mainstream now in terms of quality, but nothing beats old time Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, The Temptations, and Etta James. |
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| Author: | damik [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:21 pm ] |
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Yeah, that's two different expansions of the term R&B
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| Author: | topofsm [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:06 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: topofsm wrote: People here listen to TMBG and other many underground bands. I'm sorry, but TMBG is not an "underground" band. Sure, they're not exactly mainstream anymore, but good luck finding someone that hasn't heard Particle Man or Istanbul. Quote: I don't think anyone here is totally condemning their genres. For example, I like Lose Yourself by Eminem for it's cool riff and whatnot. It's not all techno and weird random electronic sounds like most other rap music. I think you are a very, very confused person. Okay. I didn't mean to say that they were underground. But they definetely aren't mainstream. I haven't heard Particle Man either. I've actually told people about TMBG, asking if they'd heard of them. Nobody said no. As for the rap comment, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm saying that all rap is is a guy talking with stupid electronic music in the background. They don't even use a real drumset, they set it up on the computer. |
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| Author: | Teh Ch8t [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:26 pm ] |
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topofsm wrote: As for the rap comment, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm saying that all rap is is a guy talking with stupid electronic music in the background. They don't even use a real drumset, they set it up on the computer.
I could maybe tolerate if rap was like that. But they just don't talk, most of the mainstream people like 50 Cent and Eminem talk about drugs, women, and other derogitory things that I can't stand. Like I would ever want to listen to that. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:30 pm ] |
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topofsm wrote: As for the rap comment, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm saying that all rap is is a guy talking with stupid electronic music in the background. They don't even use a real drumset, they set it up on the computer.
You seem to be taking a very small subset of rap and projecting it onto the entire genre. Though the backing music for most mainstream rap these days is composed on a computer, most of it is composed of samples, not "electronic music" (though even an electric guitar can be considered "electronic music") and definitely not "techno" or "random electronic sounds." You need to open your ears. And that's just made-for-radio rap like Eminem. If you ever went to a live show, you'd find that many better rappers prefer to perform with a live band, e.g. full drum set, bass, keyboard, turntablist, sometimes even strings or brass. |
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| Author: | gwr2004 [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:34 pm ] |
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Quote: As for the rap comment, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm saying that all rap is is a guy talking with stupid electronic music in the background. They don't even use a real drumset, they set it up on the computer.
Welcome to the twenty-first century! |
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| Author: | Jimmie [ Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:54 pm ] |
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DeathlyPallor wrote: Same as above. Definitely cannot stand the tears in my beer music... What do you get when you play a country song backwards?
Someone singing about getting their wife back, their dog back, their truck back, etc. etc. |
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| Author: | DeathlyPallor [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:59 am ] |
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Well, the thing about rap is that back in the day, it used to be against the man and such. And as you watch how it progresses, most of the popular stuff has strayed from that point and has become the opposite of what it was. Because you have give proper respect to NWA and Public Enemy. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:38 am ] |
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Hurm...you left off both "classical" and "techno/electronica" as options on the poll...not that I dislike either one of them. And aren't R&B and Blues considered to be subgenres of genres like rap and jazz (when you said "subgenres such as emo and metal don't count")? Anyways...I picked rap, because very little rap seems to ever strike a chord with me. However, I wouldn't say I necessarily "dislike" or "hate" rap--it just doesn't appeal to me. There ARE some genres/musicians that I simply can't stand, though: 1950s "bubble gum" rock (like the kind heard ALL THROUGHOUT that darnable musical "Grease"), almost everything by Andrew Lloyd Webber, and ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING by Milton Babbitt. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:19 am ] |
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PianoManGidley wrote: Hurm...you left off both "classical" and "techno/electronica" as options on the poll...not that I dislike either one of them. And aren't R&B and Blues considered to be subgenres of genres like rap and jazz (when you said "subgenres such as emo and metal don't count")?
I would consider Rap and jazz to be subgenres of R&B and Blues, if anything. I would even go so far as to say that nearly ALL music in America right now is a subgenre of Blues. Of course, you're trained in music and I'm not. I'll go with whatever the educated person says (you hate Grease, if it was up to me, you could get a PhD just for that). |
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| Author: | Schmelen [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:08 am ] |
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... I like Grease... And don't tell me I am not musical. BECAUSE I AM! |
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| Author: | Funkstar [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:32 am ] |
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Rap is bad, but come on people. POP. It's the stuff cheerleaders and morons listen to. It's worse. |
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| Author: | Jimmie [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:14 pm ] |
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^Pop is my third least favorite music genre listed in the poll, next to Country and Rap. So, yeah...I'd have to agree with you. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:29 pm ] |
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StrongRad wrote: I would consider Rap and jazz to be subgenres of R&B and Blues, if anything.
I would even go so far as to say that nearly ALL music in America right now is a subgenre of Blues. Nah...jazz is a genre that sort of emerged from folk music, Ragtime, and Dixieland (hence why many consider Dixieland [and some consider Ragtime] to still be a form of jazz). Blues pretty much seems to have come out of that same or similar folk music that helped create jazz, but was heavily refined and taken in by jazz artists of jazz's first generation (such as Duke Ellington and Jelly Roll Morton). The 12-bar Blues (as it's often called in the jazz world) became a foundation for a lot of jazz, but as many other subgenres of jazz broke off and evolved from it, Blues still held its own and is still around today. R&B--Rhythm & Blues--is one of the subgenres that evolved from Blues, and was personified best (IMO) in the classic film The Blues Brothers (remember their Rhythm & Blues Revue?). How R&B evolved into a subgenre of rap is something I haven't studied...though I can't help but feel it has degraded in value by doing so. As for ALL American music right now being a subgenre of Blues, I have to say that's impossible. Current trends in the artsy-fartsy world of "modern concert music"--trends that include minimalism, microtonality, and electronic music--spawned from a different line of musical evolution. They can be traced back to their ancestors of early 20th Century 12-tone rows and Serialism, which came out of the Romantic/Impressionist era, which was molded from the Classical era, which was forged by the Baroque era, and so on and so forth. Of course, this hasn't stopped composers of minimalism and microtonality and such from incorporating other trends such as jazz or pop or techno (I myself have some sort of jazz influence in almost all the music I write)--but the primary root still stems from a different branch of music. Also, while current popular music may have come from a lineage tied to Blues (such as Blues-->Country-->Rock n' Roll-->Alternative-->Pop), it has gone under so many permutations that it really has no resemblance to the Blues anymore. Therefore, to claim that it's a subgenre of Blues seems erroneous, because for it to be a true subgenre, it would have to still embody the same fundamental structure and theory of Blues itself...which it doesn't. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:49 pm ] |
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PianoManGidley wrote: StrongRad wrote: I would consider Rap and jazz to be subgenres of R&B and Blues, if anything. I would even go so far as to say that nearly ALL music in America right now is a subgenre of Blues. Nah...jazz is a genre that sort of emerged from folk music, Ragtime, and Dixieland (hence why many consider Dixieland [and some consider Ragtime] to still be a form of jazz). Blues pretty much seems to have come out of that same or similar folk music that helped create jazz, but was heavily refined and taken in by jazz artists of jazz's first generation (such as Duke Ellington and Jelly Roll Morton). The 12-bar Blues (as it's often called in the jazz world) became a foundation for a lot of jazz, but as many other subgenres of jazz broke off and evolved from it, Blues still held its own and is still around today. R&B--Rhythm & Blues--is one of the subgenres that evolved from Blues, and was personified best (IMO) in the classic film The Blues Brothers (remember their Rhythm & Blues Revue?). How R&B evolved into a subgenre of rap is something I haven't studied...though I can't help but feel it has degraded in value by doing so. As for ALL American music right now being a subgenre of Blues, I have to say that's impossible. Current trends in the artsy-fartsy world of "modern concert music"--trends that include minimalism, microtonality, and electronic music--spawned from a different line of musical evolution. They can be traced back to their ancestors of early 20th Century 12-tone rows and Serialism, which came out of the Romantic/Impressionist era, which was molded from the Classical era, which was forged by the Baroque era, and so on and so forth. Of course, this hasn't stopped composers of minimalism and microtonality and such from incorporating other trends such as jazz or pop or techno (I myself have some sort of jazz influence in almost all the music I write)--but the primary root still stems from a different branch of music. Also, while current popular music may have come from a lineage tied to Blues (such as Blues-->Country-->Rock n' Roll-->Alternative-->Pop), it has gone under so many permutations that it really has no resemblance to the Blues anymore. Therefore, to claim that it's a subgenre of Blues seems erroneous, because for it to be a true subgenre, it would have to still embody the same fundamental structure and theory of Blues itself...which it doesn't. PWN'D! er, ummm... Yeah.. Like I said, you have a music education, I'm an atmospheric scientist. I could totally PWN you over some hurricanes or global warming!!
Perhaps I would have been more correct in saying that MOST American music can trace its roots back to blues.. Even then, I woulda still been wrong. Oh well, first step to learning is admitting you know nothing
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| Author: | Cybernetic Teenybopper [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:32 pm ] |
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And I'm the literary dork. So I notice things about lyrics and how they compare with classical poetry and... stuff. Have you ever noticed that emo music is basically country set a rock beat and without the twang? Country's my least favorite genre. It's sleepy, twangy, whiny, and overall "cowboy emo." Not my favorite thing ever. I can say that I like some rap, if only the originals and the underground. The beat makes my feet twitch; I can't help it. |
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| Author: | Lunar Jesty [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:50 pm ] |
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Funkstar wrote: Rap is bad, but come on people. POP. It's the stuff cheerleaders and morons listen to. It's worse.
Ever heard Of Montreal? There's two free songs on their last.fm. That's what pop really is. The radio pop (pretty much the only pop on the radio these days is Daniel Powter, and yeah he sucks) sucks, but there's very little pop on the radio these days. The Beatles were pop. Yep, they're the stuff cheerleaders and morons listen to. |
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| Author: | Krazed Squirell [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:58 pm ] |
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Cybernetic Teenybopper wrote: Country's my least favorite genre. It's sleepy, twangy, whiny, and overall "cowboy emo." Not my favorite thing ever.
I was ready to argue that point when I remembered an old Charlie Louvin country song, What are those things with big, black, wings Circling, Descending from up over head Lie to me, tell me that they're only robins Tell me that are love will never be dead. I love that song, it's freaking hillarious. Anyway, IJ made a post earlier about sweeping generelizations and although I'm not as mad as he appeared to be, I agree 100%. I somewhat or mostly like all the genres posted in this poll and thus I can't really vote. My advice is this. Don't listen to just the Top 40 on the radio. Each of those genres is huge and diverse. Take the time to dig around first and if you decide you don't like the genre as a whole, then at least you've broadened your musical knowledge. |
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| Author: | DESTROY US ALL! [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:58 pm ] |
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Funkstar wrote: Rap is bad, but come on people. POP. It's the stuff cheerleaders and morons listen to. It's worse.
Ever heard of Powerpop? Not many morons and cheerleaders even know what that is funk. Pop is jsut anythign played in the top 40. POPular music. Pretty much, if they've ever had a record go gold or platinum. They're pop in some way or another, even if it's just a techincality. |
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| Author: | Lunar Jesty [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:27 pm ] |
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DESTROY US ALL! wrote: Funkstar wrote: Rap is bad, but come on people. POP. It's the stuff cheerleaders and morons listen to. It's worse. Ever heard of Powerpop? Not many morons and cheerleaders even know what that is funk. Pop is jsut anythign played in the top 40. POPular music. Pretty much, if they've ever had a record go gold or platinum. They're pop in some way or another, even if it's just a techincality. No. Pop is Britiney Spears and crap, but it's not Beyonce. If it doesn't fit into any other genre, it's usually pop. Pop usually does not rely on guitars and is much more vocal-centric. Any hip-hop in the top 40 is not pop. It's hip-hop. |
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