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| Author: | No Loafing [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:05 am ] |
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which operating system do you have? |
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| Author: | ssssmemyself [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:49 am ] |
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Windows, but I'd rather be using Linux. Yeah, that's weird. Long story. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:49 am ] |
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I'm currently using Windows, but I might be getting either an IBM or a Mac laptop. |
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| Author: | Stu [ Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:37 pm ] |
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What is this "ibm" os you guys keep speaking of? os/2? Me... I use several. At work I use Winblows XP, Redhat 9, SuSE 9, Solaris 5.8 (I believe), and a few Macs (not too many, so I don't really count them). At home, I have a box running Redhat 9, and a couple Windows boxes (2000, XP, and 2003 server). My laptop used to run SuSE 9.0, but then I couldn't play all my games... sigh, so back to Windows I went. As soon as I have desktop space and money, I plan on getting my wife a mac. (Which would also be nice for me, so I could play around with its os a little). |
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| Author: | Stu [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:57 am ] |
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Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfab wrote: it's hard to believe you've never heard of IBM, Stu. Here's a photo of one:
I have heard of big blue. But I wasn't aware that they still made an os that people use in their personal computers. My dad used to have a computer running OS/2, but that was years ago. One of the computers I have running here is built by ibm, but it is running Windows (made by ms... not in any way related to ibm, at least not to my knowledge). |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:08 pm ] |
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I'm the only Mac user here. I have the iBook G4 with Mac OSX. I recommend it to any Windows users.(If you have Windows XP, think that, but better and original, not copied) |
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| Author: | Stu [ Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:39 pm ] |
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thefreakyblueman wrote: :mrgreen:
I'm the only Mac user here. I have the iBook G4 with Mac OSX. I recommend it to any Windows users.(If you have Windows XP, think that, but better and original, not copied) And minus a large % of the security holes. Just about anything beats Windows. But I don't think I could do the mac thing for the simple reason that not enough people make software for it (games in particular)... It's the same reason I don't use linux on my laptop. However, if I were doing graphic design... video editing... things along those lines, then I probably would look into Mac. |
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| Author: | racerx_is_alive [ Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:15 pm ] |
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I heard that most of the video editing / picture stuff are now benchmarking just as fast on windows computers as they are on even the newest Macs. I think that the Macs just hang around because people use what they are used to. A lot of the current professional video editors/graphic design folk use Macs because they have used them for years, and have the key-bindings and one mouse button thing down pat. Myself, at home I'm on windows xp now. Previously dual-boot fedora core/win 2k. I needed linux for school assignments etc., but mostly the games deal and a technophobe wife is why I'm on windows now. At work I use Win XP and Solaris. |
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| Author: | Mikeyman [ Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:43 pm ] |
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My computer runs Windows 98SE. I'm hoping to upgrade to Windows XP soon, before computer games stop supporting 98. |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:38 am ] |
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Stu wrote: But I don't think I could do the mac thing for the simple reason that not enough people make software for it (games in particular)
That's what I'm hearing from most people at my school, but what I usually say to them is that "if you're judging a computer by game amount, you probably shouldn't be judging a computer".
But really, for me, the only games I want are BZFlag, StarCraft, Warcraft, and if possible, World of WarCraft. (I don't know if I can link to the game's websites since that might be advertising) |
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| Author: | Stu [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:26 pm ] |
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thefreakyblueman wrote: That's what I'm hearing from most people at my school, but what I usually say to them is that "if you're judging a computer by game amount, you probably shouldn't be judging a computer".
But really, for me, the only games I want are BZFlag, StarCraft, Warcraft, and if possible, World of WarCraft. (I don't know if I can link to the game's websites since that might be advertising) Don't get me wrong. (I try not to judge computers by their game content too much. Being a computer science major, that would be a little silly). However, I do like to play games. Yes, I know that many of them are on macs as well as pc. The major problem seems to be when they make the conversion. (It seems that you will have a pc game released, then 4 months later get a mac version). I really shouldn't be arguing this point (as the last time I played a game when it was brand new was... hmm... I can't even remember the last time I played a brand new game). I have always used pcs, and so that's really what I am comfortable with. Although, lately I have been using Linux a bit more, and so the temptation to switch is growing. Maybe if I can find me a cheap kvm switch I will hook up another one here. Oye.
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| Author: | Warlordofhomsaria_v2 [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:33 pm ] |
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my family uses windows. my dad built our old compys |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:35 pm ] |
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Oh, I wasn't saying that about you, I was mentioning that the kids at my school do that. Macs are really for people who are using computers for application development, music and the arts, graphic design and programming. The system is amazing, and Macs would be a heck of a lot more popular if they learned NOT to price the computers and OS so freakin' high. PCs are excellent for schools, since they really only need internet and some writing program, but I wouldn't suggest a serious computer user to have a PC. |
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| Author: | racerx_is_alive [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:09 pm ] |
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thefreakyblueman wrote: Macs are really for people who are using computers for application development, music and the arts, graphic design and programming.
I'll buy music and the arts, and graphic design. However, as a programmer/application developer, I can't say I know anyone who does that on a Mac. I know a couple CS guys with Macs, but they telnet onto other systems to do development. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:19 pm ] |
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Music, sure. You're more likely to find a Mac in a music studio. And the Mac used to be the platform of choice for graphic designers and publishing folks. But the truth is that anymore, there's not much advantage for those folks on the Mac end anymore. Every major graphic design and publishing app is available for Macs and Windows, and there's no real speed or functionality advantage on either side. If Apple has any lingering majority in that sector anymore, it's only by virtue of legacy. And racerx is correct concerning application development. The Mac software business is a tiny fraction of the Windows software business, and there are more resources for beginning and independent programmers on the Windows platform. But if Apple keeps up their current growth trend, this may all change. I'd be very much interested in buying a Mac if I wouldn't be forced into Apple's hardware platform lock-in. Call me a masochist, but I like being able to swap out my motherboard or video card for any of a hundred makes and models any time I want. |
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| Author: | Stu [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:56 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: I'd be very much interested in buying a Mac if I wouldn't be forced into Apple's hardware platform lock-in. Call me a masochist, but I like being able to swap out my motherboard or video card for any of a hundred makes and models any time I want.
That's one of the few things I am split over (concerning mac vs pc). I too like having the liberty of a huge selection of hardware to choose from. I think it promotes faster growth (more companies competing = more pressure for them to offer the best product at the lowest price). But it also causes many problems. With a mac, when you buy a new piece of hardware, you know (with almost certainity) that it is going to be compatible. You don't need to worry about finding the right drivers or if your motherboard is going to compain about a conflict. Even more importantly (not for us the users, but for the system programmers), you have a standard already in place for how each piece of hardware is going to communicate with each other. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:57 pm ] |
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Stu wrote: With a mac, when you buy a new piece of hardware, you know (with almost certainity) that it is going to be compatible. You don't need to worry about finding the right drivers or if your motherboard is going to compain about a conflict. Even more importantly (not for us the users, but for the system programmers), you have a standard already in place for how each piece of hardware is going to communicate with each other.
This is very true, and it's the very reason Apple was able to do what they did with OSX. They developed the OS knowing exactly what hardware it would run on, right down to the serial number on the PFU. And it's part of the reason Windows can be such a nightmare sometimes -- because the developers at Microsoft as well as third parties really have no idea what kind of hardware they're going to be running on. Apple can make every OSX desktop look beautiful with transparency and antialiasing and windows swooshing all over the place because they know it'll run well on every system it's installed on. It boggles the mind to think about all of the things the OSX team doesn't have to worry about that the Windows team does. Oh, the pain. As time goes on and the more I see what people are doing with OSX and the less I enjoy Windows, the more I consider getting a Mac. This is nigh on revalatory, because before OSX I was the most awful sort of anti-Mac zealot (because, to be honest, they didn't have a very good product back then, especially for power-users). But then there's the lock-in. It's a comfort knowing that when my computer is at the rear of the pack and dropping quickly, I can drop $400 on any motherboard and any processor I want and be at the head of the pack again. There's no $400 miracle upgrade for Mac users. They want to be at the head of the pack again, they drop $1200-2000 on a new system. And if my power supply fails I can head down to Best Buy and get a new one, or I can express-ship one from Newegg or Mwave, instead of relying on Apple, whose customer service is anywhere from messianic to diabolical, depending on who you ask, to tell me what to do with it. Oh, and then there's the games. I'm only a casual gamer, but Mac gamer is an oxymoron. And Half-Life 2 isn't coming out on XBox. |
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| Author: | racerx_is_alive [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:52 pm ] |
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http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/features/switch/media/switch.mov Ultimate Mac Gamer video [requires quicktime] |
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| Author: | shaeffer [ Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:35 am ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: I'd be very much interested in buying a Mac if I wouldn't be forced into Apple's hardware platform lock-in. Call me a masochist, but I like being able to swap out my motherboard or video card for any of a hundred makes and models any time I want. This and the fact that macs have no support for a lot of popular software (mainly games, but not just)... it really turns me off Stu wrote: With a mac, when you buy a new piece of hardware, you know (with almost certainity) that it is going to be compatible. You don't need to worry about finding the right drivers or if your motherboard is going to compain about a conflict. Even more importantly (not for us the users, but for the system programmers), you have a standard already in place for how each piece of hardware is going to communicate with each other.
but that takes all the fun out of putting your own box together =Þ |
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| Author: | Franz Ferdinand [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:06 pm ] |
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i have a mac running OSX |
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| Author: | ~Kupo~ [ Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:40 pm ] |
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I use all three, but linux is my fave. Why? Not only is it incredibly stable, but it also runs on PCs and Macs! I really have no main computer running linux, but I use DSL on my flash drive and BCD. |
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| Author: | Hand Me Down Clown! [ Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:43 pm ] |
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Mac. Like totally. I'm proud of my hardware! Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfab said... Quote: My school once had a Macintosh in our classroom. It was as slow as heck, and just as boring. I can't imagine actually owning a Mac. I would die. Windows in the way to go.
You tried one Mac in your life, and you presume all of them as being the same?! Do not make the assumption that all Macs are that slow. That was probably a very old Apple computer. I'm not hear to start a war, I just needed to say something... Anyway, that's about it. —The 'Clown |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:46 am ] |
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Windows 98'D! I could/should have updated long ago, but I'm just holding on to what I have until I get a new box built... Really never saw a reason to upgrade, since I never seem to have time for games, and all of my programs work fine with 98... I suppose I will equip the new box with XP, although Linux is looking good... |
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| Author: | Overused&Underappreci [ Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:24 am ] |
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My school district used Windows until a stupid rule about not letting people outside of the Seattle School District into the Spectrum (or I guess most of you wouldn't recognize that- an accelerated learning program that allowed us to do things 1 grade level higher than ours)forced us to move schools. Now I'm in the Shoreline School District, and they use Macs! I'm not used to Macs really, since through fourth grade I've used Windows and have a Windows at home. (I am in eighth grade now). |
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| Author: | breadtangle o' pizza [ Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:10 pm ] |
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My main box is Windows XP (eerrghhh) and I'm waiting for my Ubuntu CDs to arrive to install on the second HD. My other box has no hard drive (guess where it went?) and is running a Damn Small Linux live CD...sort of. I need to clean the CD lens. My ANCIENT 386 is so old it only has a 5.25" floppy drive, needs a custom card for the (32 meg) hard drive, and uses HERCULES GRAPHICS! It could qualify for the position of SB's next comp. |
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| Author: | The Human Wedgie [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:07 am ] |
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racerx_is_alive wrote: http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/features/switch/media/switch.mov
Ultimate Mac Gamer video [requires quicktime] You know who invented QuickTime? Apple. |
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| Author: | fahooglewitz1077 [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:27 am ] |
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homsar999 wrote: racerx_is_alive wrote: http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/features/switch/media/switch.mov Ultimate Mac Gamer video [requires quicktime] You know who invented QuickTime? Apple. Exploring deeper.... |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:31 am ] |
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fahooglewitz1077 wrote: Exploring deeper....
What's your point? |
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