AgentOpaque wrote:
God created hell for SATAN and his followers (other angels tried to overcome God with Satan). If someone chooses not to follow God they choose to follow Satan. ... God continues to allow hell to exist because it is the place where Satan and his followers will spend eternity.
So why let Satan continue to exist? Why not destroy Satan and destroy Hell? Or why not put Satan in a Jar of Holding for all eternity where he can't get at god's children. Certainly that's what we do here on the mortal plane with evil people. Certainly god is capable (right? see below). And without Satan, Bob won't be led to evil. Maybe he'll still miss the bus won't be led to god, either, but every little bit helps, right?
The trouble is that, just like Bob, god created Satan. When god created Satan he knew that Satan would lead millions (billions! trillions!) of his children to evil, and to hell, and to eternal damnation. So why create Satan in the first place? God created Satan. God could stop Satan, but chooses not to. Everything that Satan does because God chooses not to prevent it is therefore God's will.
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God can not do EVERYTHING...because God can not sin. He can't lie, cheat, steal or be unfair.
Where does the Bible say this? Every Christian I've ever spoken to has said that god is omnipotent, meaning he is capable of everything, which means everything possible, impossible, imaginable, or unimaginable. God created sin, falsehood, and injustice, so I have a hard time imagining those terms applied to his deeds. God is without limitation, according to every definition I've heard, but saying that he cannot do X is claiming he is limited.
AgentOpaque wrote:
I don't know why BOB was created but maybe God decided to create people will a 99.9% chance of choosing him
I think it's Didymus who reminded us of Einstein's opinion: God does not play dice. Would you agree? God created Bob and knew beforehand that Bob would
not choose him, because god knows all.
AgentOpaque wrote:
It's like if you are going to have a baby and everything but you foresee that your baby will grow up and make bad friends and do drugs and hurt you and just lead a bad life...you wouldn't abort the baby just because of that
If you knew the baby would turn out like this even before he is conceived, would you still choose to conceive the baby?
AgentOpaque wrote:
Since God created Bob, should God bow down to Bob and worship him? (That was kind of funny) NO. Thou Shall have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME!
So clearly this isn't a mutual "friendship". I so move that we pick a different word. Anybody care to second?
AgentOpaque wrote:
Other gods require worship or reverence or other religious traditions.
Are you saying that you believe in these other gods? Or that you allow for the possibility of them existing? I do, clearly, but it seems a little backwards coming from you.
Didymus wrote:
Who ever said emotion was a flaw?
I don't know, but I sure didn't. I
implied that
irrationality is a flaw. Irrationality is a lapse in reason. A perfect, omnipotent being cannot lapse any more than he can get less than 100% on a quiz or trip over his shoelaces. The Christian god may be emotional, but he does not lapse.
furrykef wrote:
Jones, why do you not capitalize the name of "God"?
I can't say for sure. It has nothing to do with his authenticity, and of course I regret having offended anybody. It's just a personal preference.
But now that you've brought it to everybody's attention, someone will probably get on my case about it. Curse you, The Kef!
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