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Why did he concede? He was only 2 electoral votes behind Bush!

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Because his aides predict that he won't win Ohio, and if he doesn't win Ohio, he doesn't win.

To be honest, I'm still holding my breath. Or hoping I'll wake up.

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The Incoherology Trilogy

Check out my tale, and I promise to start posting again.

Please, people, let's not let this turn into a Slashdot thread.

We all know what a Bush election means. As Kerry says, "more of the same". Some people believe that's a good thing; let's not the rest of us whine about it. If you have something of value to add to this thread, go for it. But if it only amounts to anguished screams and really big fonts (or, alternately, smug gloating and really big fonts), keep it to yourselves.

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Sorry for the double post, but I need a clean break from above.

For those of you mourning, here's a couple links I'd like to share. First, one from Kos:

Remember Goldwater


And secondly, one from Boing Boing, Kerry concedes. It's a bit too sprawling to pick a good quote from, so just go read it.

I had nightmares last night (I almost never, ever have nightmares that I remember), and a headache today, but apart from the headache I'm fairly numb right now. There's a small but loud part of my heart that's telling me to expatriate, as it has been for three years. But I don't hate my country; I'm just terrified of it. The rest of me, though, the passionate, opinionated, optimistic part that does most of the driving, is telling me that this can be set right.

Four years is a hideously long time when your rights are being taken away, your friends are being demeaned and marginalized as a matter of policy, and the bravest kids you know are being needlessly sent to die. It will be agonizing. Junior high was agonizing, too, but I made it. I had faith that one day I would begin to see the dim light at the end of the tunnel and some day I'd finally be able to step out into it. And I did. Junior high was only four years, and so will be this fraud of an administration, and the one that follows it will be one that is good and that is right, not Right. I have faith in this. I have to.

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There was an article on Slate a few days ago about the cure for election rage. It was written both ways since no one knew who would win the election.

http://www.slate.com/id/2108859/

I thought it was pretty funny. Others may disagree.

Easy there, Chicken Little. Sky's not gonna fall. I'm hoping that's sarcasm.. As Kerry said, we all woke up americans.. I was really proud of him for conceding with such grace and style. With that said, I really would have liked the provisionals in OH counted before he conceded, if for nothing more than to eliminate the "if those ballots had been included" talk we're sure to hear.

I really think that Kerry's graceful concession did a lot to erase the crybaby, "Sore Loserman" image (some people had) that Al Gore branded the democratic party with after the last election. I seriously doubt that we have heard the last of Sir Kerry. I hope not.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

Yes, I'm so glad Presdent Bush has won relection. I'm more excitied that Tom Dashle lost, its about time. At least Kerry didn't cry for a recount like Gore. I must say this, in 2008 the libertarians are going to step up a nouch against the republicans(unless Hillary runs).

Some more articles about what's to come:

Still Missing the Big Picture. Do yourself a favor and actually read the entire article.

What a Second Bush Term Will Mean.

A short one from Kos: Values.

Maybe this isn't over. Or maybe in the next four years he'll turn out to be everything his record indicates he'll be, and American will finally be ready to make the right choice. At least I can smile about that.

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hey, here's some bipartisan cooperation for you: I'm glad Daschle lost too. I hate that the Democrats lost yet another Senate seat, but now they can get a Senate leader who has some balls and isn't chained to a "red state". my vote would be for Dick Durbin (D-IL).

I read all three of those... I'll reread them after a good night's sleep, but for now, I really don't know what to say. Paranoia at it's best, comes to mind. The thing for Kos to remember about the "theocrats" is that the people put them in power. This country is a democracy where the people elect representatives that will get them the things they want. The majority rules, pure and simple. I really don't know what the issue is. It's not like these people were appointed to power in some sort of secret meetings we didn't know about. Most of these "theocrats" were elected by the people. The populace gave them a mandate to do what they're doing.

The BOP thing was more of the same:

There really aren't any "secret laws", if anyone is so concerned, they can track these things as they're debated, and look them up.

The thing that told me the most about BOP's character was the thing about GOP voter suppression, right under an ad that said "What have you done to stop Ralph Nader" Seems like this site is another "All people have a right to vote for their candidate, so long as I like them" clone.. I could be wrong... I will redo my analysis after some sleep..

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A couple things. First, Kos didn't write that (there are many "journal" authors at his site). Secondly, don't forget the old adage: just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And thirdly, just because the people (or rather, barely half the people) put them in power doesn't give them license to destroy the constution of this nation. I've written about this before. I believe it's wrong to promote one belief system over another as a matter of policy, no matter how large a majority think otherwise, and the framers of the constitution agreed when they wrote it.

At any rate, I post these things as I find them; generally I don't know anything about the character of the people who write them or care to pass judgment (though on the subject of ads, to judge an organization by the ads they run in their margins is certainly novel; I'm not saying it's something that shouldn't be examined, I'm just saying it's novel -- we don't do that when it comes to CNN or NYT). Often I'll even post something while I'm only halfway done reading it, so don't be too hasty in interpreting my posting of something as an outright endorsement.

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Both sites, BOP and KOS, smack of left-wing paranoia. I don't feel like I can trust either one of them. But at least they are honest about their leftist biases; they're not trying to pull a "Fox News" on us.

BTW, I'm pretty sure that conces5ion is spelled with a "5".

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It was not easy for me today because I am the only liberal in my little group of mine. But what I did say was, "Don't come crying to me when Bush reinstates the draft and you are selected to go. If you think that the war is so 'right', then you can go and fight in it."

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On a lighter note:

I just think it's fun to say "Mini Willinois".

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I always knew my state was part of Canada anyway!

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Yeah. Shut up, kid.

Yes, because if Kerry were President, everyone would blame him for whatever bad things that happen, and no one would vote for his re-election. On the other hand, Bush would be blamed for everything and no one would vote for Cheney (or whoever) in 2008.

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Andy Baio has a good collection of links and quotes from various sources. Take a look.

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This is astounding. Barely 24 hours after his opponent's concession, before even being elected to his second term, listen to how Bush is behaving (from his press conference today):



I can't believe his gall. I'm not at all surprised by it -- he's been behaving this way for four years -- I just can't believe it. Bush wants it to be very clear to everybody that he has somehow won a "mandate" from the United States electorate. He hasn't. If anything, he's won a four-year reprieve. Bush has won the weakest incumbent reelection in almost a century. Yesterday he was bragging that more people voted for him than any other candidate in history. I can't fault him that. But he left out another crucial fact -- more people voted against him than any other candidate in history, too.

From Kos:


You don't have a mandate, Mr. President, you have a most undeserved second chance.

And lastly, Tom Paine, contributing editor for Harper's Magazine, has called the election for Kerry. Yep, Florida all over again.

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I read the Tom Paine article. The author's bases his assessment on the assumption that exit polls are 100% accurate. Here's my question: how can you insure that exit polls are that accurate?

Another problem is that of the whole chad thing. As one commentator pointed out, Ohio at least had a standard in what constituted a valid vote. Florida did not. That was the main reason for the controversy four years ago - they could not decide on whether to count all the dangling, dimpled, pregnant, and whatever else kind of chads there are, and the different districts had different criteria and guidelines. With a set standard, Ohio can avoid that controversy.

Now as you all know, I was not a supporter of Bush. I liked him as a president right up until the whole Iraq invasion thing. At that point, he lost me. It is my sincere hope that he will not make the same mistake again. I was glad to see Saddam Hussein captured and his regime ended, but I fear what precedent this will set in our relations to other countries.

Anyway, getting back to my point, the election is over. Kerry's own analysts have concluded that the contested votes are not enough to secure a Kerry victory. Crying foul at this point won't do much good. All it will do is further polarize our nation, moving us further from concensus, which is what we really need.

I have to agree with MashpotatoJones in this one regard. President Bush is a cocky SOB. He's Texan, and that pretty much says it all (believe me, I know a lot of Texans). But if he doesn't make some real efforts to reach out to the other side, he will end up shooting himself in the foot (and maybe the rest of us as well).

My suggestion: write to him and voice your concerns. He probably won't read your letter personally, but his analysts will certainly take it into account. He can't afford to ignore 49% of the American public, even if it was the other 51% that put him in office.

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Oh man, will I beat that one into the ground......

Bush apparently says there will be changes in the cabinet. He's gotten my attention already. Remember, these are the same people who convinced him Saddam and Osama bin Laden were good high school buddies. I mean, Bush is a good guy and all, he's just stupid. And gullible. I didn't vote for him, but half of America did, so I guess we can either deal with him or move to Canada. Let's give him a couple of months.

I was reading an article on MSNBC just a few minutes ago, and it sounds like almost all of his cabinet is ready to be done, if not immediately, within the next year or two. Ashcroft is as good as gone already, Rummy within 2 years (he wants to finish the military restructuring), Tom Ridge is considering being gone in a year, Condi wants to go back to Stanford as soon as she can, and so on so on.

My biggest beef with Bush hasn't been him or his decisions (even including invading Iraq), but I mostly object to the ineptitude/scheming of his cabinet. Every day since I heard her testimony during the 9/11 hearings, I hoped Condi would retire from public office. She's no good at her job.

Bush didn't do a great job of putting intelligent, honest people around him during his first term. I hope this time he does a better job.

You guys might enjoy the Daily Show's evening-after coverage of the election. The intro is great and Ed Helms' report is spot-on. At least Jon Stewart can still make us laugh.

This all would have been a lot easier if I were still a cynic.

And USA Today is reporting on the more than 1,000 e-voting problems reported around the country. I honestly don't have any interest in contesting this election, but having a degree in Computer Science I'm just astounded at the awful, awful software design that seems to be going into these machines. A "glitch" in North Carolina caused one voting machine to eat 4,500 votes because its storage was insufficient. How much does it cost to pay a programmer to implement a system that raises a warning when it's running out of storage? And how in the hell do you run out of storage after 3,005 votes?? Even if every vote took up 1MB, a preposterous figure (less than 1kb is realistic in my mind), ten bucks worth of storage could store ten times that many votes. Toss in triple-redundancy and heavy encryption and you're still in the dirt cheap range.

Gah. Why aren't we holding Diebold, et al accountable? Why are so many states still customers of companies that hire such incompetent programmers?

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I agree. That is ridiculous. Who the crap designed that kind of system, Fred Flintstone? By "storage," do they mean the little birds that live in it, pecking on stone tablets and saying, "Eh, it's a living"? Maybe it was the same guy that sent Strong Bad that BC email. Seriously. As Weird Al says, "What kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?"

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The facts:

-A record number of people voted.
-A majority of that record number voted for Bush.

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Err.. ok? That doesn't say anything about InterruptorJones' point. Regardless of the record number of voters and the Bush majority, he STILL got the most amount of votes against him. Also, try to be a bit less rude. "THE END" implies that you are right in the matter, and that it should be over with, and that's not the case here.

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Evidence of the ol' glassies! Nothing up our sleeves, no magic little Alex! A job for two who are now of job age! The police!

Exactly how are the record amount of people who voted for Bush any less significant than the record amount of people who voted against him? He got the majority of the popular vote. That is something Clinton failed to do in two terms.

First off, Bush, regardless of the majority, got the most votes against him in the history of the US (remember, just because the amount of votes against him is larger than any other president, that doesn't affect the fact he won). Also, Clinton got the majority of the popular vote in both of his elections (1, 2, 3).

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Evidence of the ol' glassies! Nothing up our sleeves, no magic little Alex! A job for two who are now of job age! The police!

How can you recognise that Bush got the record number of people voting agianst him and not recognize that the a vast number of voters voted for him? My first post still stands. As for my comentary on Clinton, I am right. He never got the popular vote and thus never got a mandate amongst you Dems. I'd like to see you oppose that.