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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:45 am 
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I was wondering (though I can already guess what the majority of people's opinions will be here) what people thought of the idea of there being only one government that managed and united the entire world. One nation, as it were, with no real borders. One ring to rule them all...whoops, sorry...ignore that last sentence.

Seriously, though, there seem to be pros and cons to having just one government for the world. Pros could include immigration being much easier, more tolerant-minded government figureheads leading areas of the world that have been less "developed," and possibly even improving the overall quality of life around the planet.

However, I think that one con seems to outweigh the pros...the potential for an oppressive, totalitarian rule, with no chance of escape to another "country" (as there would be no other countries). I think that there still needs to be different political ideas in power.

Anyways...has anyone else ever had any thoughts about this? Would you be for or against a single global government?

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I think the only snag in the idea is that each nation would rather have its own ideas implemented than someone else's. I know there wouldn't be countries any more, but if an official from the European continent wanted a law passed, would an official born in the Pacific Rim find it appeasing or even relevant? I just don't think it'd work.
But it'd sure be nice.

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I'm definitely against one global government. Like PMG said, the single government would be completely totalitarian & oppressive. How would we be represented? Would there even be any reprsentation at all?

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I'm against it. But it will happen.

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IantheGecko wrote:
I'm definitely against one global government. Like PMG said, the single government would be completely totalitarian & oppressive. How would we be represented? Would there even be any reprsentation at all?


Well, I didn't say it necessarily WOULD be totalitarian--just that if it DID become that way, people wouldn't have anywhere to flee to.

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Personally, I think a "One World Government" would be a monumental failure. First, you'd have to deal with the whole issue of trying to rule the whole world. That is a logistical nightmare. Second, with as many people as there are on this planet, you're not going to get enough of them to agree on anything worthwhile. Third, (or second point 2) you're always going to have a sizable portion of the population that's going to be very unhappy (revolt, anyone?).

All of that aside, I would fear such a government. Like PMG said, with multiple governments, if you don't like what's going on, you can leave. It's a bit easier to cross an ocean than it is to go to Mars.

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I'm entirely for a one world government if I get to run it.

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And what makes you so special that you can run a planet with billions upon billions of people? Of course, everyone wants to rule the world.

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IantheGecko wrote:
Of course, everyone wants to rule the world.


I don't...that'd be WAY too much responsibility and stuff.

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I oppose a united world government for one simple reason: bureaucracy. A single united world government would never get anything done, much less anything done right.

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Didymus wrote:
I oppose a united world government for one simple reason: bureaucracy. A single united world government would never get anything done, much less anything done right.

It'd also keep them from screwing things up too much, though. :-)

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Yeah, but can you imagine the immense wasted expense to maintain it? Sheesh! Nearly 2/3's of your income would go just to keep it operating!

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As awesome as world goverment would be, its impossible. Most things that unite everybody are impossible. Like communism.

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Think!
Global elections, wide spread poverty, possible civil wars, rebellions.

Britain Ruled much of the world at 1 point it all fell apart..,
Can't work and won't work!

And it would be anarchy...


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Karmaism wrote:
Think!
Global elections, wide spread poverty, possible civil wars, rebellions.

Britain Ruled much of the world at 1 point it all fell apart..,
Can't work and won't work!

And it would be anarchy...
I would have to agree with you on that. A global government would be impossible. Think, if the "leader" comes from a certain area of the world, they might support that area more than another.

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ramrod wrote:
Karmaism wrote:
Think!
Global elections, wide spread poverty, possible civil wars, rebellions.

Britain Ruled much of the world at 1 point it all fell apart..,
Can't work and won't work!

And it would be anarchy...
I would have to agree with you on that. A global government would be impossible. Think, if the "leader" comes from a certain area of the world, they might support that area more than another.


Another good point.
If there are many leaders they could squabble or rule differently or worse engage in war e.g.North America vs Europe

And also The only way you will get the world to join u from ur country is through war...Or you have to be insanely inspirational and speak alot of languages


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Karmaism wrote:
ramrod wrote:
Karmaism wrote:
Think!
Global elections, wide spread poverty, possible civil wars, rebellions.

Britain Ruled much of the world at 1 point it all fell apart..,
Can't work and won't work!

And it would be anarchy...
I would have to agree with you on that. A global government would be impossible. Think, if the "leader" comes from a certain area of the world, they might support that area more than another.


Another good point.
If there are many leaders they could squabble or rule differently or worse engage in war e.g.North America vs Europe

And also The only way you will get the world to join YOU from YOUR country is through war...Or you have to be insanely inspirational and speak alot of languages


That's not entirely true. The people in your country can just be better off than the people in whatever country you're trying to convince.

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Depends what you define as better off.I think i am better off in Canada than Russia for example but not every1 agrees.


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I think SR is trying to say that whatever country the world's dictator would be from, he would economically favor that country.

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Who else immediately thought of Futurama when they saw this thread?

Well, maybe I'm always thinking about Futurama.

Anyway, I think that the only possible way a global government would work was if there were indeed other planets, other governments with which to work, and other options for people who were unhappy, y'know?

It really, really scares me to think about all this though. So I'm gonna stop.

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IantheGecko wrote:
I think SR is trying to say that whatever country the world's dictator would be from, he would economically favor that country.
Precisely. If the leader hailed from, oh, let's say North America, he might try to give more aid and economic opportunity to there rather than, let's say, South America or West Asia.

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ramrod wrote:
IantheGecko wrote:
I think SR is trying to say that whatever country the world's dictator would be from, he would economically favor that country.
Precisely. If the leader hailed from, oh, let's say North America, he might try to give more aid and economic opportunity to there rather than, let's say, South America or West Asia.


I think we are all in agreement it would be corrupt.
It just won't work.And not to mention...rebellions.


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Here is my opinion.

I feel that God is the best government for me.

And that is all I have to say.


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Like Alec, my loyalty lies first and foremost with the King of All Creation. As for earthly governments, I feel that all systems of government have their faults and weaknesses, and are therefore unreliable.

But for myself, I think I prefer to live in a system where us hoi polloi have an actual voice in the decision-making process (i.e., a representational government). I'd also prefer to live in an economic system that rewarded ingenuity and hard work, but somewhat regulated to insure fair business practices between businesses and toward workers.

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Argle! World government? Help me, George Orwell!

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