Movies on TV

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:40 pm

Have you ever noticed how some movies are often unscrupulously edited to fit within a fixed range and for content, instead of just going 100%? X-(

Why do they do that? X-(

To me, that's like editing the story of Red Riding Hood, by saying, "Once upon a time, there was a little girl in a red hood and a wolf ate her up. The end." Why do they that? And more importantly, what can one do to see the movie in question in its entirety with almost no unscrupulous edits whatsoever?

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

Uh.

We have these things called "DVDs" nowadays...

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:52 pm

extremejon09 wrote:

Uh.

We have these things called "DVDs" nowadays...

Yeah, but is that the only way? And even if it was, what good would they do on those levels?

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

I don't understand your moon talk.

Explain these levels to me.

Beaums · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:25 am

Nah I'm just joshing you. When movies are played on TV they're just bound to be edited, it's science. But it also depends on the station. Some stations are accustomed to mature and inappropriate content so they may edit a movie to a very small extent or they may not edit it at all. Other stations try to continue to play content for all ages and thus must edit some movies brutally, to the point where begin misinterpreting the story. But in general movies played on TV end up being subjected to heavy editing because TV is free, public access yo. And when people want to see a movie they pay for it either in theaters or on DVD. When people pay for something they want to see it is usually because of their self will to see it. A movie shown for free on TV can be viewed by anyone absent mindedly flipping through the channels and thus must face more restrictions.

I think that's how it works. But I agree with you man, some stations take the editing waayyyy too far and end up ruining the true spirit and meaning of the film.

If you're really trying to see a movie on TV without unscrupulous edits uh... wait for it to be played on a less strict station? Tv stations like Razer that are now being made available to you if you call your service provider and whatnot are usually more easy-going with movies.

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:27 am

extremejon09 wrote:

I don't understand your moon talk.

Explain these levels to me.

By "levels", I meant, "What good would DVDs do, even if they were the only solution?"

Beaums wrote:

When movies are played on TV they're just bound to be edited, it's science. But it also depends on the station. Some stations are accustomed to mature and inappropriate content so they may edit a movie to a very small extent or they may not edit it at all. Other stations try to continue to play content for all ages and thus must edit some movies brutally, to the point where begin misinterpreting the story. But in general movies played on TV end up being subjected to heavy editing because TV is free, public access yo. And when people want to see a movie they pay for it either in theaters or on DVD. When people pay for something they want to see it is usually because of their self will to see it. A movie shown for free on TV can be viewed by anyone absent mindedly flipping through the channels and thus must face more restrictions.

I think that's how it works. But I agree with you man, some stations take the editing waayyyy too far and end up ruining the true spirit and meaning of the film.

If you're really trying to see a movie on TV without unscrupulous edits uh... wait for it to be played on a less strict station? Tv stations like Razer that are now being made available to you if you call your service provider and whatnot are usually more easy-going with movies.

Well, what do the overpriced DVDs have that TV does not? And suppose they limit the amount of stations a movie plays on?

Biscuithead · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:36 am

Wow, do they really do that?

I've noticed that movies are sometimes shortened for t.v, or the ad break cuts out some of the movie or something. But I've never noticed that bad content has been edited out of a movie, and I do watch the same movies on tv and at the movies. They are always the same.

Maybe Australian t.v stations don't do this, they just give the shows a different rating for content, or maybe I just don't pay enough attention.

On a funny side note, I once watched an old black and white movie of "A Spaced Odyssey" late at night, and it was completely unedited. It went for well over 4 hours, with very long repetitive scenes of people walking or floating through space and moving slowly, and it had a ten minute intermission which wasn't edited out.

The Noid · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:10 pm

Soccermoms would get upset and rally the whole suburb to boycott the channel, the movie, and the company. They would do protests with clever picket signs outside of the company HQ. They would get their fastest typers (wpm of 15) that know how to use the "world wide web" to send out emails to any email that they can scrounge, warning the recipient of the "dangers of (channel, movie, etc.)". Slowly, the channel and the movie producers start to send out apologies to the offended people and then point the finger at everybody else but them.

ramrod · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:08 pm

The reason why movies on TV get edited for time is because they have other shows to air. They can't take too much time with just one movie. As for the bad content? It all depends on what the FCC will allow them to play.

damik · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:24 pm **Posts:** 580

Augh, I hate this so much. The solution, of course, would be not to ruin the artistic integrity of the film by unscrupulously removing bits of it but to just not show the film. But then, of course, the networks wouldn't be able to make tons of money from the increased ad break revenue.

ChickenLeg · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:07 pm

The Noid wrote:

They would get their fastest typers (wpm of 15) that know how to use the "world wide web"

In all seriousness, it is because of the channels having to follow the rules so the FCC doesn't get butthurt. Also, time. Seriousyl, I really would thingk that soccermoms would do just that if a few seconds with the naked woman coming into the foreground, moving violently, then running off were included in Airplane! on TV. It's funny, though.

Beaums · **Posted:** Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:35 am

ramrod wrote:

The reason why movies on TV get edited for time is because they have other shows to air. They can't take too much time with just one movie. As for the bad content? It all depends on what the FCC will allow them to play.

That's true as well. Time can be a big factor in the editing of movies on TV. Most stations need movies to finish up on the hour/half-hour so they can make a smooth transition back into their regular scheduled programming.

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:37 am

But you never really answered my question on what good would DVDs do over TV? I mean, what do DVDs have that TV does not? What advantages does DVD have over TV?

furrykef · **Posted:** Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:32 am

ramrod wrote:

The reason why movies on TV get edited for time is because they have other shows to air. They can't take too much time with just one movie. As for the bad content? It all depends on what the FCC will allow them to play.

It's not just that, it's advertisers, too. Cable stations like AMC don't have to put up with the FCC, but they usually censor movies anyway. That's also why South Park, for all its crudeness, is often censored.

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

But you never really answered my question on what good would DVDs do over TV? I mean, what do DVDs have that TV does not? What advantages does DVD have over TV?

No FCC + no advertisers = no censorship!

- Kef

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:49 pm

You know another thing I hate about movies being broadcast on TV? The stations are notorious for sometimes putting in commercial breaks in the most awkward places.

furrykef wrote:

No FCC + no advertisers = no censorship!

- Kef

But what if there is a movie you like that does not have a DVD release yet, but was shown on TV?

It's not like I actually go hunting through the TV schedules trying to find the movie in question to watch, but when it comes on by chance, I figure "What the heck?"

Let's suppose they were going to air on TV, say... "Blazing Saddles", but you own that movie on DVD; what would you do?

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:13 pm

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

But what if there is a movie you like that does not have a DVD release yet, but was shown on TV?

By the time that a movie comes out on TV, I can guarantee that it is already out on DVD.

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

Let's suppose they were going to air on TV, say... "Blazing Saddles", but you own that movie on DVD; what would you do?

Do you listen to yourself when you talk? Or do you find that drift in and out a lot?

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:33 pm

Beyond the Grave wrote:

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

Let's suppose they were going to air on TV, say... "Blazing Saddles", but you own that movie on DVD; what would you do?

Do you listen to yourself when you talk? Or do you find that drift in and out a lot?

What does that mean? Are you saying I should ask myself that question? What do you think I would answer myself?

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:46 pm

The question you asked answered itself.

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

Let's suppose they were going to air on TV, say... "Blazing Saddles", but you own that movie on DVD; what would you do?

You don't need a Master's in Quantum Mechanics to figure that one out. You are going to watch the DVD. DUH!

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:52 pm

Beyond the Grave wrote:

The question you asked answered itself.

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

Let's suppose they were going to air on TV, say... "Blazing Saddles", but you own that movie on DVD; what would you do?

You don't need a Master's in Quantum Mechanics to figure that one out. You are going to watch the DVD. DUH!

Well, that answers one question, I guess, but now, the other question is, what if you don't have the DVD? Would you just blow off watching the movie on TV and watch nothing of the sort?

silent wulf · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:36 am

HBO, cinemax, starz, shotime

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:59 am

silent wulf wrote:

HBO, cinemax, starz, shotime

Unfortunately, however, not everyone has those stations, me included, although I certainly wish I did have them.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:07 am

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:05 am

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Well, no offense, but they certainly cared enough before.

Einoo T. Spork · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:46 pm

You know, CPHP, never once have you raised a topic that I found remotely important.

Quit being so pedantic and try talking about things that someone will actually give a crap about.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:47 pm

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

Well, that answers one question, I guess, but now, the other question is, what if you don't have the DVD? Would you just blow off watching the movie on TV and watch nothing of the sort?

what

Einoo T. Spork · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:59 pm

CaptainPastHisPrime wrote:

Well, that answers one question, I guess, but now, the other question is, what if you don't have the DVD? Would you just blow off watching the movie on TV and watch nothing of the sort?

You think too much about things no normal person gives any thought – or needs to do so.

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2008 12:44 am

Einoo T. Spork wrote:

You think too much about things no normal person gives any thought – or needs to do so.

Well, it's just that I've seen how they edit some movies I like, sometimes brutally, and I was just getting sick of it, so I simply thought I would bring the subject out into the open. At least I could get it off my chest this way.

But seriously, not everyone, including yours truly, has any of those fancy movies channels (i.e., HBO, Showtime, etc.), although I would certainly love to have them. The only movie station I have is this one called MoviePlex.

So, if a movie has not had a DVD release yet, yet has been shown on TV, what should be done? Not watch the movie at all?

Jitka · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2008 12:57 am

CPHP wrote:

So, if a movie has not had a DVD release yet, yet has been shown on TV, what should be done? Not watch the movie at all?

Pirate a screener from the Intarwebz.

CaptainPastHisPrime · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2008 1:04 am

Jitka wrote:

CPHP wrote:

So, if a movie has not had a DVD release yet, yet has been shown on TV, what should be done? Not watch the movie at all?

Pirate a screener from the Intarwebz.

Any legal solutions? Because you said "Pirate" and that means stealing.

Jitka · **Posted:** Mon May 05, 2008 1:22 am

Well, if you wanna be legal about it, you probably need to watch the butchered TV version or just wait for the DVD.

But it's really easiest to just steal it. :eekdance:

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